Ed Greshko <Ed.Greshko@xxxxxxxxxxx> wrote: >Sent: Sep 2, 2010 6:58 AM >To: Community support for Fedora users <users@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> >Subject: Re: SELinux - a call for end-of-life. > > On 09/02/2010 08:41 PM, Tim wrote: >> Ed Greshko: >>>>> Are you saying that you think it is a good idea to be allowed to chown >>>>> of a file under your UID to another's UID as a normal user? >> Tim: >>>> You've never downloaded a file as one user, that another user wanted, or >>>> another of your own logins needed, and then had to move it from one to >>>> the other? >> Ed Greshko: >>> That wasn't my question.... >> Well it was the situation I was originally talking about. Are you >> saying that nobody should be allowed to do that? >> >I am saying that it would be fraught with danger. You'd need to control >who and under what circumstances a given user would be allowed to disown >a file and transfer ownership to another. I can see it being abused >(intentionally or unintentionally...due to mis-configuration or whatnot) >where an executable is "given" to a "target" and bad things could >result. I just see that too much thought would be needed to put this >into practice. > >In real life, I don't think it is as easy or straight forward as imagined. > And it should not be. However, this portion of the thread is the first case where I could actually state that this could be a MAJOR security hazard. Let's expand this: 1. An account with a weak password gets compromised. 2. This account has a file added (either FTP/SFTP upload or a malicious script is written). 3. The ownership of this file is changed to a user with elevated privileges, but not root. It is rather interesting, but if this is prevented, then the file remains just a space waster... This is one of the functions of a good security system. However, if the user was root, this whole case changes. A good security system should prevent or disable root login excepting a specific set known hosts or only from specific users if internal (su). James McKenzie -- users mailing list users@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines