On Wed, 2010-09-01 at 15:44 +0100, Alan Cox wrote: > Also there's not a lot of value in "you have been owned, your data is > toast, your hard disk is erased" I've seen that with anti-virus software. It'll warn you that it detected a virus. But did it stop it? No, the virus did its job. I really do despair of modern computing, but it's really got beyond the stage when you can completely "roll your own." It has to work with an OS, you have to learn all about working with that OS, and learn all about the libraries you're going to use, and your compiler... Tim, remembering the days of writing everything for hardware with no OS, just basic firmware... And typing in other people's software from a book, instead of simply getting some file... And compiling software completely manually (looking up OP codes from the microprocessor book). -- [tim@localhost ~]$ uname -r 2.6.27.25-78.2.56.fc9.i686 Don't send private replies to my address, the mailbox is ignored. I read messages from the public lists. -- users mailing list users@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines