Re: Aren't upgrades demanding too much restarts?

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On Tue, 2010-08-31 at 21:43 -0300, Andre Costa wrote:
> On Tue, Aug 31, 2010 at 20:17, Patrick O'Callaghan
> <pocallaghan@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
> > On Tue, 2010-08-31 at 19:17 -0300, Andre Costa wrote:
> >> Isn't there any more clever way of determining if a reboot is really
> >> necessary? Or maybe at least the message should be less "demanding", I
> >> don't know... it really seems unneeded.
> >
> > needs-restarting ("yum install yum-utils" if you don't have it). This
> > will catch everything except the kernel, but that one is obvious.
> 
> That's nice, I didn't know needs-restarting, it will definitely be
> useful (it is installed). Thks =)
> 
> Still, my point is: this kind of check should be handled automatically
> by the upgrade process, and the user should only be asked to reboot if
> there's *really* need to do so. Eg. right now, after those two
> upgrades I mentioned, that read "reboot me!" icon is sitting on my
> notification panel, but if I run 'needs-restarting' this is what I
> get:
> 
> 3478 : /usr/libexec/clock-applet--oaf-activate-iid=OAFIID:GNOME_ClockApplet_Factory--oaf-ior-fd=42
> 3484 : /usr/sbin/restorecond-u
> 3501 : pidgin
> 
> Aside from restorecond, it's obvious I don't need to restart because
> clock-applet and pidgin were upgraded... :-/ (and even restorecond
> might not require a reboot).
> 
> Andre

Andre, I think needs-restarting means those applications need to be
restarted, not you need to restart the whole system to update those
applications.
As well as 'reboot me' should means exactly that: reboot that particular
application.
I never ever saw a linux system which has to be rebooted in order to
update pidgin.

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