>> Likewise for people vehemently advocating to disable SELinux, I view >> them with a great deal of suspicion. Is it simply they really do not >> like it, or do they have ulterior motives? > > Neither. Initially, when trying to use it, they typically notice > something stops working. Then, when trying to make it work, they get > lost in arcane and cryptic tools. You forgot the crucial point. Namely that SELinux is not necessary for most. btw I don't know who "vehemently advocating to disable SELinux". Rather it is "I don't need it" or its variations -- all very smooth and mild like the Theodore Tso's comment I quoted in the first place. I quote one more from the same thread. This one is from Linus: "I find SELinux to be so irrelevant to my usage that I don't use it at all" http://lkml.org/lkml/2007/10/2/353 -- users mailing list users@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines