On 08/22/2010 08:34 PM, Patrick O'Callaghan wrote: > On Sun, 2010-08-22 at 19:33 -0700, JD wrote: >> On 08/22/2010 07:25 PM, Patrick O'Callaghan wrote: >>> On Sun, 2010-08-22 at 18:39 -0700, JD wrote: >>>> On 08/22/2010 01:38 PM, Robert G. (Doc) Savage wrote: >>>>> JD, >>>>> >>>>> It's possible that system-config-services is not working correctly. As >>>>> an alternative, use chkconfig to look at the default startup status for >>>>> each of those services: >>>>> # chkconfig --list | grep akmods >>>>> akmods 0:off 1:off 2:on 3:on 4:on 5:on 6:off >>>> $ chkconfig --list | grep akmods >>>> akmods 0:off 1:off 2:off 3:off 4:off 5:off >>>> 6:off >>>> >>>> ditto with the rest: capi hsqldb isdn jetty lm_sensors racoon sandbox >>>> vmware zvbid >>>> >>>> So, I still cannot explain this. >>>> >>>> For example, capi is reported by system-config-services as running, >>>> BUT: >>>> >>>> $ sudo service capi status >>>> capi not installed - Connection timed out (110) >>>> >>>> So, how could it be reported as running. >>>> >>>> akmod is also reported as running and ther is not S*akmods in any of >>>> /etc/rc[0123455].d >>>> >>>> also, hsqldb is disabled, yet it is reported as running, >>>> same as isdn, jetty, lm_sensors, racoon, sandbox, vmware, zvbid >>>> >>>> In summary, system-config-services cannot be relied on to correctly >>>> report what services are running or, disabled, or stopped. >>> A service can be disabled (i.e. not enabled) in a run level, yet have >>> been started by something else, perhaps inadvertently. Before declaring >>> s-c-s to be buggy, it would be important to discover if these things >>> actually *are* running or not, using ps, and if so what their parent >>> processes are. >>> >>> poc >>> >> Duh!!! >> Goes without saying! >> They are not running! > Why does it go without saying? Nothing in your previous report indicates > that you had checked the s-c-s version of reality using ps. Without that > information, how can anyone decide where the problem really is? > > poc Please, stop the noise! I am sure there are people who will be tryinf this for themselves and see that it is the case. There is a problem with system-config-services. Enough from you. -- users mailing list users@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines