Re: FEL was Re: Hi

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On Saturday, August 07, 2010 16:47:32 g wrote:
> On 08/07/2010 03:12 PM, Marko Vojinovic wrote:
> > He didn't send it in html, I received the first post with no problem.
> 
> actually, he sent *two* 'text/html'. one to this list, one to FEL list.
> 
> > Maybe it got caught by your spam filter or something.
> 
> my spam filter *did not* catch them. it knows better.
> 
> my thunderbird filter rule for "Content-Type: text/html" caught them;
> 
> Applied filter "= html - Content-Type: text/html" to message from Árpád
> Attila Bakos <jaxxco@xxxxxxxxx> - [free-electronic-lab] Hi at 08/07/2010
> 07:10:19 AM moved message id =
>  AANLkTinW2KDbXuSs7_aLbuUHbcKYes3xpVDaSJtU6C8V@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx to
>  mailbox://nobody@Local%20Folders/html

Well, I typically don't bother to look at e-mail headers, but rather rely on 
KMail yelling and screaming when a html message arrives, which it didn't do in 
the OP's case. Below are the full headers of the message I received. Note that 
the content-type line declares multipart/mixed rather than text/html.

I typically delete html mail (manually) without reading it, unless I recognize 
the sender as my personal acquaintance or otherwise non-ordinary. I trust 
detection of incoming html mail to KMail (with default settings). Usually, 
when a html message arrives, KMail displays a big red warning and asks me if I 
want it to display the message --- which I almost never do.

But in the OP's case KMail displayed the message without any warnings, like a 
regular plain text message, and gave me no reason to suspect it to be html. 
Hence my assumption about your spam filter.

All this aside, I never actually bothered to understand how is mail classified 
to be html or not, by various filters and applications. But I just fail to see 
a single html tag in the body of the message below. Intuitively speaking, I 
would say it is not a html message --- there is no html code inside it. At 
least I don't see any.

Am I missing something?

Here is the message with full headers, as KMail sees it (forgive me for not 
trimming anything):

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Hi!
I'm Arpad Attila Bakos, 25 years old guy interested in open-source software
and hardware,from Hungary.
Working as a repair technician at a world leader mobile phone company I've
met a Fedora ambassador, who adviced me to join FEL.
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Best, :-)
Marko


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