Hi, > I suspect it to be the main source of instability: > - directly > I happened to visit some sites that were so "intensely heavy" in content > that they could literally lock the FF (and the machine) for good. Perhaps > the cause was HTML plus JavaScript plus intentionally "cleverly" coded > pages (I even had Java Runtime turned off) that apparently FF could not > process smoothly. Had it consumed all your available swap, too? Was the disk thrashing while this was happening? It just locks the machine, and doesn't crash so you can create a bug report and send the FF people? > I think FF should quickly move to tabs and other processes separation as > Google Chrome did. I'm sure there's a reason they haven't done this. Perhaps we'll see it in the v4.0 version, which should be available shortly. > - indirectly > I visited a very popular site with a small Java applet that on a first > time startup almost regularly knocked the FF down; I passed its URL to FF > devs). Often times these problems actually result from various add-ons which are poorly written, leak memory, leave files open, locking problems, etc. > Java environment is a hog and a cause of instability, still. I found Azureus on FC13 consuming 5GB of RAM! Damn. Five friggin gigs! > - complete lockup, could not open xterm to kill some process, no reaction to > CTL-Alt-Backspace, could move cursor only. > For that reason I added to my panel the "bomb" app (Force a misbehaving > application to quit) to get access to my desktop system (I hope to be > effective with it; waiting to try it out ...). I don't understand how that would work. If you're able to click on an application to kill something, why can't you just manually kill it? > $ alias startx='/usr/bin/startx -- -nolisten tcp >& .startx.log' > This may give some clue about the nature of any problems. There are a few errors. I'll post a separate thread to see if someone can help me troubleshoot them. > I find F13 quite stable (despite its dev nature); I prefer Gnome as well over > KDE, by any means. So I do not think you should drop either of them. It's gotten better over the past few months. Thanks, Alex -- users mailing list users@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines