Several machines have been showing lines like these : Press 'I' to enter interactive startup. Starting udev: udevd[405]: BUS= will be removed in a future udev version, please use SUBSYSTEM= to match the event device, or SUBSYSTEMS= to match a parent device, in /etc/udev/rules.d/85-pcscd_egate.rules:3 udevd[405]: SYSFS{}= will be removed in a future udev version, please use ATTR{}= to match the event device, or ATTRS{}= to match a parent device, in /etc/udev/rules.d/85-pcscd_egate.rules:3 udevd[405]: BUS= will be removed in a future udev version, please use SUBSYSTEM= to match the event device, or SUBSYSTEMS= to match a parent device, in /etc/udev/rules.d/85-pcscd_egate.rules:5 [etc., etc.] All of that is utterly opaque to me -- so impenetrable, indeed, that it bodes to presage another learning curve like '98 - '00, when I had just retired. But now I no longer have the strength nor the stamina to get through that again. Are all we subtechnoids about to be driven forth into the wilderness?? -- Beartooth Staffwright, Neo-Redneck Not Quite Clueless Power User I have precious (very precious!) little idea where up is. -- Beartooth Staffwright, Neo-Redneck Not Quite Clueless Power User I have precious (very precious!) little idea where up is. -- users mailing list users@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines