Bruno Wolff III wrote: > On Tue, Jul 06, 2010 at 09:47:52 +0300, > Felipe Contreras <felipe.contreras@xxxxxxxxx> wrote: >> No, the spam filter will be *in addition* to whatever is there >> already. If the list remains subscription-only, there's still spam >> that goes through, the spam filter will help. And if the lists is >> moderated, the spam filter would help go through the moderation queue. > > In the current world, you get significantly less spam by restricting posts > to subscribers. Unless your list is big enough to be worth the trouble > of spammers to subscribe. In the future this might be different, but for > now requiring subscription is a legitimate antispam technique. > >> Again, that's speculation. Most of the mailing lists I'm subscribed >> to, allow non-subscribers to post, and there are as many occasional >> posters who don't have a clue there, than here. So again, I don't >> think it's sensible to apply prejudices based on the people's >> subscription, which is very simple to do. > > That probably has more to do with the kinds of lists you use rather than > being a general principle. > >>> Not on all lists. Moderators often lack the time. I speak as one such, >>> and some posts simply don't make it because they have waited too long >>> for attention. It is not scalable. If the list is very active, the >>> problem gets far worse. >> Again, other lists manage just fine. Speculation. > > Are you volunteering to do the work to make that happen? Having run mailing lists and ISP size (6M users) news servers, I can suggest that the practice of hand moderation of non-subscribers and new subscribers results in a manageable read load. And auto-passing a reply to a previous post where the reply doesn't have top posting can reduce it farther. Just a thought. -- Bill Davidsen <davidsen@xxxxxxx> "We have more to fear from the bungling of the incompetent than from the machinations of the wicked." - from Slashdot -- users mailing list users@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines