Well, I had a motherboard toast the built in video interface, though the machine otherwise seemed to work ok. I pulled out the discs, and stuck them into a spare box I had lying around, and pulled the other interesting peripherals, like the CD-ROM and DVD-ROM drives, etc, and rebooted. After some chit chat with kudzu, the machine came up, and everything worked. Except the built in sound peripheral on the motherboard. Now, this is odd because it's just an ordinary '97 style chip. After some significant period trying to get this to work, I tried the GNOME SystemSettings->Soundcard Detection and that found and made it work. That's very odd, since the hardware was previously detected, and showed up in the BrowseHardware. Anyway, after fiddling for months, a simple click has made my sound, like the cat, come back. Mike -- p="p=%c%s%c;main(){printf(p,34,p,34);}";main(){printf(p,34,p,34);} Oppose globalization and One World Governments like the UN. This message made from 100% recycled bits. You have found the bank of Larn. I speak only for myself, and I am unanimous in that! -- users mailing list users@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines