Re: MultiMedia suggestions?

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On Tue, 2010-06-01 at 13:10 -0700, Michael Miles wrote:
> On 06/01/2010 12:48 PM, Craig White wrote:
> > On Tue, 2010-06-01 at 11:47 -0700, jack craig wrote:
> >    
> >> Hi FC folks,
> >>
> >> I have a dvd video that plays fine in my home dvd player, but not via
> >> totem.
> >>
> >> I have, ...
> >>
> >> totem-2.26.5-1.fc11.x86_64
> >> totem-gstreamer-2.26.5-1.fc11.x86_64
> >> totem-mozplugin-2.26.5-1.fc11.x86_64
> >> totem-nautilus-2.26.5-1.fc11.x86_64
> >> totem-pl-parser-2.26.3-1.fc11.x86_64
> >>
> >> gst-mixer-2.26.0-3.fc11.x86_64
> >> gstreamer-0.10.25-1.fc11.x86_64
> >> gstreamer-plugins-base-0.10.25-3.fc11.x86_64
> >> gstreamer-plugins-flumpegdemux-0.10.15-6.fc11.x86_64
> >> gstreamer-plugins-good-0.10.16-4.fc11.x86_64
> >> gstreamer-python-0.10.16-1.fc11.x86_64
> >> gstreamer-tools-0.10.25-1.fc11.x86_64
> >> PackageKit-gstreamer-plugin-0.4.9-1.fc11.x86_64
> >> totem-gstreamer-2.26.5-1.fc11.x86_64
> >>
> >> installed.
> >>
> >> I am able to copy the dvd to an iso file, but not play it locally. I
> >> get, ...
> >>
> >> missing DVD source
> >>
> >>
> >> How might i learn what is missing? Thx, jackc...
> >>      
> > ----
> > if that is a store bought dvd, then you probably need libdvdcss package
> > - the legality of which, at least in the US is probably questionable but
> > if I recall correctly, that package is available from livna.
> >
> > F11 is pretty much dead btw
> >
> > Craig
> >
> >
> >    
> This is what I really do not get about copyrights.
> 
> I go to the store and buy a DVD movie.
> I do not have a DVD player but a computer.
> So I can't watch the movie without libdvdcss
> 
> In the states that would be considered illegal even though I did not rip 
> or reproduce in any way.
> 
> On the note of ripping..... playing a dvd from the DVD deck in my 
> computer means the motor of the dvd recorder reader will run constant 
> for 2 hours plus.
> These motors can't take that kind of stress for very long.
> So the best option is to rip it and place it on a Hard drive which is 
> more suited for long extended motor usage. By doing that I have broken 
> the law and could be prosecuted.
> 
> Even though I own the original.
> 
> 
> When I buy a game it's a given that the game will be placed on a HD and 
> yet the very same copyright laws are broken as soon as I backup the cd 
> or dvd game on HD
> 
> 
> What a confusing situation.
----
the simplest surest way to protest is not to purchase any DVD's that
have such encryption on them because there are actually many issues at
play here.

If you want to inform yourself, you might want to start here...
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/DeCSS

but essentially there is an encryption put onto most commercially
available DVD and the code to play them on a computer or on a store
bought DVD player is licensed. The GPL license would never permit
distribution of such restrictive code. Thus any software that acquiesces
to such restrictive licensing terms will never be part of a Linux
distribution (at least legally).

Fedora has specific wiki pages to explain this...
https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Multimedia
and probably more specifically here...
http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/ForbiddenItems

the easy answer in the US - get our legislators to repeal DMCA but we
need a lot of help because the deep pockets have been tossing a lot of
money to get them to pass stupid laws like the DMCA which clearly are
anti-consumer.

Craig


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