I see that F13 still has texlive 2007 which is too old for me to use and collaborate with my colleagues. So I will install the rpm's from CPAN - the downside is for some reason R requires the fedora texlive to install and I need R too ... Can someone help me make and RPM or something that tells R the texlive packages are already installed and not to keep trying installing them ? On f12 i installed R from their downloads too .. but while texlive is easy to manage using the updater, R is a pain in the back and the fedora packages make life a lot simpler. Thanks for any suggestions -- users mailing list users@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines