On 5/26/2010 2:56 PM, Máirín Duffy wrote: > On Wed, 2010-05-26 at 14:31 -0400, Tom Horsley wrote: > >> On Wed, 26 May 2010 13:47:10 -0400 >> MáirÃn Duffy wrote: >> >> >>> Would have been nice to hear your feedback last october: >>> >>> Kind of reminds me of Hitch Hiker's Guide to the Galaxy, when Arthur Dent is admonished for not leaving feedback against the plans to demolish his house, and the Earthlings are admonished for not leaving feedback against the plans for demolishing their planet! Seriously, it seems a lot of web site users found what they wanted exactly as I did, using Google. I'm sorry, but saying users savvy enough to use Torrent, or whatever, are smart enough to use Google is a cop out. There seems to be a large number of users who are unhappy with the download pages, so don't do it that way next time. No biggie. Some of you contribute mightily to the Fedora Project and to Linux, OSS and/or free software, writing code, setting up web sites, beta testing the release candidates, actively helping other users in the forums, etc. Some, like me, just download and install the latest release and try to give constructive criticism when appropriate, and occasionally contribute answers in the forums when I can. I'm not likely to visit the download page before the new product is actually released. To all you others, I greatly appreciate your efforts. I don't think I'm being egocentric in suggesting I'm the sort of user you should be trying to hook in, not some idealized concept of a newbie. I found the emphasis on all the different "spins", frankly, confusing. There are two different alternative desktops (neither of which I am familiar with) whose descriptions are nearly indistinguishable. Which trim efficient resource-sparing one do I want to try first? Impossible to tell. If you drill for more information there's nothing there, and you end up back where you started. I did try one desktop and was unimpressed (but, then, it's running from a CD!) In the past, Red Hat/Fedora offered Gnome up front and left it to more experienced users to discover KDE, etc. (and made them easy to install, if desired, and even switch among them). They supplied main download sites, mirrors and, eventually torrent files and tried to encourage people to use the latter, with the second preference being a nearby mirror. I think these were wise policies that should be continued. -- users mailing list users@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines