Don Quixote de la Mancha wrote (in another thread, which I am trying to break away from): > On Tue, Mar 2, 2010 at 3:55 PM, John Mellor <john.mellor@xxxxxxxxx> wrote: > >> I think its all part of the insufficient testing problem that has dogged >> F12 ever since it was released without being stabilized. Hopefully the >> revised F13 qa automation and fixing of blocker anaconda bugs so that >> testers can actually install the beta can resolve some of this... >> > > When I upgraded from F10 to F11, I had a couple of significant > problems. I don't recall now what they were, but they were very > common problems whose solutions were well documented in the mailing > lists. > > I have remained at F11 in part because it is working well, so I'm > reluctant to risk screwing it up, and in part because I have gotten > the general impression, by reading this very list, that F12 is screwed > up in so many ways. > > I haven't made any effort to track that in a statistically sensible > way. It's just that I read so many complaints about F12 being borked > this way and that, that I have always felt it wise not to open that > particular can of worms. > > What is your take - given F12's state of fixedness *right now* am I > better off staying with F11, or upgrading to F12? > > When F13 comes out, would I be able to upgrade directly from F11 to > F13, or will I have to pass through F12 on the way? > > In principle, I ought to be able to copy my whole F11 installation > into a VirtualBox virtual hard disk, then try upgrading that just to > see if it would work. I've actually been considering doing so, > because I have so very many packages installed now, that if there was > still any kind of pervasive brokenness, attempting to upgrade would > screw the pooch but good. > > Thank You For Any Insight You Can Give Me, > > Don Quixote > Well, I might be the best person to ask, because as I see it, I have no choice: I stopped at FC6, and I now realize that my hardware is hopelessly obsolete and can't handle the ever-more-complex Javascript that is a part of half the Web these days, especially the social sites Digg.com, Propeller.com, Buzz.Yahoo.com, and, of course, the incomparable Twitter.com. (Not to mention Examiner.com, where I write regularly, and where I am informed that I am using a version of Firefox that is long since obsolete, and have found that I cannot upgrade it effectively without upgrading my OS.) So I have to go to F12--happily, with new hardware, so that I can keep the old setup around as a backstop. I would, of course, be pulling in the most current versions of all the packages, and that would help. But the main thing is that I would start relatively "clean." I also appreciate having a live CD to work with. Now what I really would appreciate is a place to go to learn how to use the one thing that would allow me to use a handful of tiny Windows freeware apps that I have acquired along the way--i.e., WINE. Temlakos -- users mailing list users@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines