--- On Tue, 3/2/10, Matthew Saltzman <mjs@xxxxxxxxxxx> wrote: > From: Matthew Saltzman <mjs@xxxxxxxxxxx> > Subject: Re: texlive 2009 > To: "Community support for Fedora users" <users@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> > Date: Tuesday, March 2, 2010, 10:15 AM > On Tue, 2010-03-02 at 11:03 -0500, > Kirk Lowery wrote: > > On Tue, Mar 2, 2010 at 10:35 AM, Matthew Saltzman > <mjs@xxxxxxxxxxx> > wrote: > > > > > A better way is to help with the Fedora packaging > effort for > > > TeXLive2009. Visit http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Features/TeXLive for > > > information on how to add the TeXLive2009 > repository and install from > > > there. > > > > It depends on how you define "better." > > > > Look at the goals of the TexLive 2009 Fedora > packaging: > > > > "A better packaging scheme allows to reduce bandwidth > and save > > significant disc space. It also allows simpler > maintenance of separate > > TeX packages. " > > > > and > > > > "Users could use exactly the part of TeX they need > without wasting disc space." > > > > I can see the advantage of Fedora packaging for (1) > the casual TeX > > user; (2) for packages that need a specific set of TeX > dependencies. > > > > However, for the serious TeX user, the issues of > bandwidth and disc > > space are not relevant. For that user, one needs > access to all of > > TeXLive, and to be up to date. TeXLive now offers > TeXLive manager > > (tlmgr) and a GUI to tlmgr. With this, one can > eliminate what packages > > one doesn't want with much finer granularity than with > the Fedora > > packaging, > > This is a legitimate counter-position to mine. > > > and one doesn't have to wait for Fedora 13! > > This isn't. There is a repo for texlive2009 packages > for F12 linked > from the features page I listed. I'm using it now on > F12, and it works > fine. > > Installing the base package pulls in a pretty functional > system. I've > had to add about a half-dozen or so RPMs over time, as I've > tried to use > some of the more specialized packages, but that's about > it. > > Now what would be really cool is something that would catch > when you > tried to pull a package that you don't have and offer to > run yum to get > it for you. Kind of like the thing (I can't find its > name just now) > that offers to yum install a package if you enter a missing > command. > > > > > Kirk > > > > -- > While the ideas are great, but I have to agree with Kirk. I am dissapointed in that Fedora used to include texlive in the original DVD for both i386 and x86_64 and now they don't. As a home user and with dialup, despite the efforts Fedora is making with packaging, it is sadly not the same as Kirk mentions. I installed TeXlive 2009 at home via the iso. I downloaded the iso.xz and extracted it and burned the cd and installed it. No problems to report. There was the path issue, but some kind folks helped me resolve that. The decision to not include TeXLive on the DVD media is the one that I don't agree with, but there again there is not much I can do :(, would have been happy running texlive 2007 on it, but why not get the latest and greatest one available. I run rawhide and TeXLive 2009 is not even there yet :( [olivares@n6355-5067 ~]$ cat /etc/fedora-release Fedora release 14 (Rawhide) [olivares@n6355-5067 ~]$ uname -a Linux n6355-5067 2.6.34-0.4.rc0.git2.fc14.i686 #1 SMP Fri Feb 26 17:10:39 UTC 2010 i686 i686 i386 GNU/Linux [olivares@n6355-5067 ~]$ rpm -qa texlive* texlive-texmf-errata-2007-7.fc12.noarch texlive-texmf-errata-fonts-2007-7.fc12.noarch texlive-dvips-2007-49.fc13.i686 texlive-texmf-dvips-2007-35.fc13.noarch texlive-texmf-2007-35.fc13.noarch texlive-latex-2007-49.fc13.i686 texlive-texmf-errata-latex-2007-7.fc12.noarch texlive-texmf-latex-2007-35.fc13.noarch texlive-2007-49.fc13.i686 texlive-texmf-fonts-2007-35.fc13.noarch texlive-utils-2007-49.fc13.i686 texlive-texmf-errata-dvips-2007-7.fc12.noarch [olivares@n6355-5067 ~]$ They are not pushing it, This is not like Fedora 8 preFedora 9 where we installed it on our own to help testing, is it? Regards, Antonio -- users mailing list users@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines
