Re: KMail / Akonadi mess

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On Sat, Feb 27, 2010 at 5:01 AM, John Aldrich-2 [via Fedora Users]
<ml-node+418629-1677171952-22986@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
> Quoting Mail Lists <[hidden email]>:
>>
>>    On the last remaining computer I am aware of/maintain with kmail
>> still being used - akonadi was running, mysqld was running, and
>> nepemonkey was running all with user privs - nothing I tried could
>> resurrect kmail to a working state - I googled, read fedora threads etc.
>>
>>    It was being used under gnome - if that matters.
>>
>>    The only way I found was to killall kontact; thunderbird &
>>
>>    As an aside, I found a long time ago that it was important to be mail
>> client indifferent - they way I do that is to have a local imap server
>> running and always use that for any local mail store instead of the mail
>> clients native store - that way I only need to export/import the current
>> contact list - and start a new client initiate 2 accounts, 1 to the ISP
>> and one to the local imap server and we're 100% back in business.
>>
>>   Hope you get your mail working again John ...
>>
> Well, I got it running, but then it came up this evening but wouldn't
> respond. What I ended up doing was killing everything Akonadi related
> (sudo pkill akonadi) and then restarting KMail. I got the dreaded
> Nepomuk indexing agent error and re-ran the fix for that. It's highly
> annoying. I'm going to hope the KDE developers get their sh!t together
> and fix all the bugs in KMail soon! That's really all I can do! :-(

I am afraid that I have lost patience with this.  As far as my own
view goes - mail is one of the few absolutely essential functions of
any computer system/desktop/laptop/netboook, and any update that
breaks a working mail setup is not excusable.  Any update to email
systems should be very carefully and thoroughly checked in testing
before it goes live - period.

I have abandoned kmail and it would take a lot to get me back to it
now. I now use Thunderbird exclusively - maybe other people will stay
with kmail if that has been their favourite client up till now and
hope that the problems get solved.  However I now do what Mail-Lists
does and run a dovecot imap server on every machine - and run a filter
to move all incoming mail from the external server (pop) to the local
imap server - and that way if there is a problem with the email client
then I can just switch to another client and still see all the same
mail very simply indeed.  Also some email clients have better specific
features than others and in the even of a serious disaster such as
appears to have happened with the akonadi/nepomuk/kmail fiasco then at
least I can simply close down kmail and open up Thunderbird and I am
back in business - who knows how many people may never return to kmail
after their experiences this week?
-- 
mike

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