Once upon a time, Tom H <tomh0665@xxxxxxxxx> said: > How about Vyatta? They are Linux-based and claim to have the same > performance as Cisco routers. They started out as software-only but > seem to be pushing "appliances" more and more, like > http://www.vyatta.com/downloads/datasheets/vyatta_3500_datasheet.pdf If I am buying a dedicated box anyway, what do I gain with buying Linux? I have enough trouble sometimes getting good support for arcane bugs on Juniper and Cisco; I really don't want to have to deal with a much smaller company that didn't write (and may not understand) all the code. While I can dig into the code to find bugs myself sometimes, I can't always do that myself (and I can't afford to do that if it is my whole network that is down). A quick look at Vyatta compares their box to the Cisco software routers, not the "real" hardware-based forwarding routers. They also have a simplified feature set (no QinQ, MPLS, telco links over T1 speed, etc.). The port density is also weak; I have a couple of hundred T1 customers in just two slots of an eight-slot, 5U Juniper. Junipers can have redundant routing and forwarding engines that switch in a fraction of a second in case of failure (and also allow you to do software upgrades with essentially zero downtime). I run Linux everywhere it makes sense, and have for more years than most (I've been running Linux-based ISPs for over 14 years and Linux on my desktop for longer than that). It just doesn't make sense in an ISP environment to run Linux on the routers. -- Chris Adams <cmadams@xxxxxxxxxx> Systems and Network Administrator - HiWAAY Internet Services I don't speak for anybody but myself - that's enough trouble. -- users mailing list users@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines