hi, Been reading your dialogue regarding the subject. Having a laptop, HP 6715b, which became a *nightmare* under F10-x86_64. I have managed a lot of crappy stuff, but that was hell until the very end. A quick test of F11-686, F13-rawhide, and did install F12-x86_64, with some hesitation. I am surprised: - no flicker on screen, no lock up ( so far ), and it is running 10-25 degrees C cooler ! Fans have never been as silent ! My question: what on earth was so terrible wrong with the driver under F10 ? What was the nature of that error ? ( It did not run this nice under F11 or F13, while then I used 686. ) I am puzzled.... //ARNE -- users mailing list users@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines