On Mon, 2010-02-01 at 16:58 -0600, Bruno Wolff III wrote: > On Mon, Feb 01, 2010 at 22:52:24 +0000, > Marko Vojinovic <vvmarko@xxxxxxxxx> wrote: > > > > Unlike ATI, who *claim* to support FS, but actually do so only when the > > hardware in question becomes obsolete. > > r700 series chipsets are hardly obsolete. I don't think one would have too > much trouble buying one. > > And look what just came out today: > http://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=news_item&px=Nzk0Ng ...And from that very article, it says: The ATI kernel mode-setting support that we really care about these days is also about done, but it isn't yet published. The open-source ATI driver currently offers no 2D (EXA) acceleration and the 3D support either through a classic Mesa driver or Gallium3D also is not yet available. ... Ideally we can see the initial Evergreen kernel mode-setting support land in time for the Linux 2.6.34 kernel merge window that should be opening up next month. At this time there is no Radeon HD 5000 series support via hard-coded paths or AtomBIOS with the xf86-video-radeonhd driver, nor do we know if any support will ever come. So, in other words, we might see some of this in F13. ...Or maybe F14, if we see some of this at all. ...By which time, the hardware in question fits the "cheaper" description advocated by those who are fervently recommending "OpenSource ueber alles!" as the priority, because nobody needs anything faster anyway. After all, if anybody really did need that, these guys would already be running it anyway. Oh, and the hardware in question will also be no longer the latest, and will be well into or near the end of it's normal hardware life cycle. So much for Fedora being a bleeding edge distro in the video support category. This sounds more like people making excuses for why they are behind the proprietary curve - even if Fedora really didn't have to be if they put the right amount of the right resources into it. -- ==================================== "Ninety-nine percent of the failures come from people who have the habit of making excuses." --George Washington Carver -- users mailing list users@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines