On Sunday 27 December 2009 22:24:34 Tim wrote: > On Sat, 2009-12-26 at 23:57 +0000, Marko Vojinovic wrote: > > Finally, there is one more very important thing to comment on. One > > notable misconception that is typically put forward by opponents of > > eye-candy is that all those effects take time to execute and thus slow > > you down when using the computer. This is *FUD* and *utter* > > *bullshit*. .....[snip]..... On today's modern hardware, all those > > compiz effects can be configured to be executed *faster* than any such > > human lag, so the system appears completely responsive while doing all > > that eye-candy stuff. > > Utter horseshit, I refute every single one of those claims. You'd have > to be a slow person, in the first place, for the animated eye candy to > not slow you down opening menus, and the like. I am not aware that there is any Compiz[-Fusion] module that deals with menus. If you point me to one, I guess I would probably be able to point you to some settings in that module that control animation speed. But this is just academic, AFAIK. My point was that animations in general can be made arbitrarily fast so that they don't get in your way. If you feel that anything is slowing you down, and there is no slider somewhere to speed it up, you can always disable that particular effect. What is certainly *not* true is the statement that *all* eye-candy effects necessarily slow you down. > e.g. Open menu, instantly pick choice, Umm, that would be --- open menu, find the choice, navigate the mouse pointer to it, click on it. Now, it takes at least one second to navigate the mouse pointer to anything (of that size) on the screen. Ditto for arrow keys. So if you make the effect last for a 1/4 of a second, it will be over well before you reach the choice with the pointer. > versus open menu, wait for effect > to subside before you can even read menu, then pick choice. Oh, you are saying it takes time for the menu to be displayed so you can _read_ it? Sure, in that sense yes, it does slow you down --- it adds, say, additional 250ms (which should be configurable) to a typical 2-second operation (read, navigate, click). If this additional quarter of a second is too expensive, maybe you shouldn't be browsing the menus with a mouse in the first place? Using the menus is slow by definition. If you want speed, use hotkeys. That is, if you know the combination. If not, you are likely to be slow with the menu both with and without eye-candy stuff. > The effects are *NOT* that quick that they add insubstantial delays. Every effect in Compiz that I ever tried (of course I haven't tried everything) had its speed configurable, "instant" (ie. no effect) being typically the fastest choice available. Further, most of the effects time can be configured up to a millisecond. So I would say each of them *can* be configured to be below anyone's personal threshold. If you find some effect whose speed cannot be configured, feel free to file a RFE against it, or just turn it off. But this is all aside of the main point. Eye-candy effects exist so that you can *enjoy* them, not to get on your nerves. I simply enjoy watching it happen, and sometimes I deliberately configure things to be slow. When I get bored of it, I speed animations up again or disable them completely. Think of it as a stress-relief utility. :-) It is decoration on the screen, much like pictures on the walls in your home. Its main point is to cheer you up and make you feel more pleasant when using a computer. If it gets on your nerves, don't use it. Best, :-) Marko -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@xxxxxxxxxx To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
