Follow-ups set to gmane.linux.redhat.fedora.general On my #2 PC, I had finally given up on preupgrading. I copied /home/btth onto an external hard drive; did a fresh install; copied /home/btth back (and did "chown -R btth:btth" on it just in case); did a lot of customizing; did a PackageKit update, which called for rebooting; did the reboot. That failed. Somewhere among all the above, I got disgusted with the display, which turned out to be 800x600 -- despite being connected directly (no KVM switch!) to the 1680x1050 monitor. The app I tried to correct with turned out (later, on another machine) *not* to be system-config-display, but something called "gnome-display-properties"; so I edited 1680x1050 into xorg.conf. When I reboot, the boot messages look normal to me, except for the left edge being truncated by one character -- until it hits this line : "[r]egistering binary handler for Windows applications [OK]" At that point the whole display flashes, several times per second for several seconds -- and then everything stops. I can get into the machine with ssh. I did; became root; took "Windows applications" with upper case W as a clue; commanded "yum update wine"; and found wine up to date. I tried "yum update samba" -- and found samba available but not installed. Still as root by way of ssh, I tried editing xorg.conf, but saw nothing to change. I tried googling the whole message above. That got surprisingly few hits, all or nearly all in the Far East -- with a couple in what looks like some Indonesian language, and several with a line I believe to be Japanese, but otherwise all format of some enigmatic sort, and no text. So I took one more shot : [root@Hbsk X11]# system-config-display Couldn't start X server on card 0 Couldn't start X server with old config, trying with a fresh configuration Couldn't start X server on card 0 Error, failed to start X server. [root@Hbsk X11]# Now what?? -- Beartooth Staffwright, Neo-Redneck, Not Quite Clueless Power User I have precious (very precious!) little idea where up is. -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@xxxxxxxxxx To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines