Hi; I just loaded F12 onto my old IBM R51 laptop. It went fine, everything but USB worked. I created two users "guest" users Gnome, "mick" uses KDE. I prefer KDE so logged onto that. My wireless network connected just fine, the display was fine. I did a "yum install yumex". Followed by yumex. After a big update the KDE screen is broken. The taskbar is whited out with thin black horizontal lines. Any program (dolphin) top line max/min/quit shows the same as the taskbar. Quit does work. I logged out and back in as "guest: under gnome. The screen was fine, but no wireless network. I did not test gnome wireless before the update. I cannot test wireless in kde now as The menu's are unreadable. I "userdel" mick and removed /home/mick, then "useradd" mick, same. This laptop uses an intel centrino motherboard. Mick M. Standard guarantee applies - 30 feet or 30 seconds, whichever comes first. # find / -name "*your base*" -exec chown us:us {} \; -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@xxxxxxxxxx To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines