On Saturday 05 December 2009, Matthew Saltzman wrote: >On Sat, 2009-12-05 at 19:30 -0500, Gene Heskett wrote: >> On Saturday 05 December 2009, Matthew Saltzman wrote: >> >On Sat, 2009-12-05 at 12:33 -0500, Gene Heskett wrote: >> >> On Saturday 05 December 2009, Wayne Feick wrote: >> >> >On Sat, 2009-12-05 at 11:30 -0500, Gene Heskett wrote: >> >> >> Folderol even. My objection to LVM is two fold. >> >> >> >> >> >> 1. It won't allow one to save things in the /home tree when doing >> >> >> an upgrade or re-install. I have an almost 10GB corpus of email, >> >> >> and several scripts that are needed for my daily operations that >> >> >> need to be preserved. LVM makes that impossible. >> >> > >> >> >Can you elaborate? I use LVM on all my systems, and whenever I move >> >> > to a new Fedora release I carry the old /home tree forward to the >> >> > new installation. >> >> > >> >> >Wayne. >> >> >> >> And just how do you do that? The last time I tried to save /home, >> >> anaconda would not proceed until I checked the format it box. As I'm >> >> an alpha test site for amanda, the recovery was doable and was done, >> >> but what kind of twisted reasoning gives anaconda the right to demand >> >> I destroy my data? >> > >> >Well, nothing (unless it's on a partition that has to be formatted for >> >an install, like /). >> > >> >And I've never had that problem. If /home is a separate LV, in >> >Anaconda, select the PV with the /home LV inside it. You'll have to >> >reset the mount points for all the LVs (an annoyance, to be sure, that I >> >wish could be fixed), but you don't have to format /home (or /opt, >> >or /usr/local, etc.) if it is a separate LV (or if it's on a separate >> >partition). >> >> I also tried that once, and convinced it I didn't want it formatted, >> about FC6 I think. It bought it I thought, till I found it had made a >> /home directory on /, the proceeded to write the new /home with its >> defaults. I took a bit of detective work to ascertain that my /home >> partition still existed, but wasn't ever used and was not in /etc/fstab >> as a separate entry. Dumb was NOT my comment when I found that. > >There's always a /home directory on the root filesystem. Of course. >If you have a >separate /home filesystem, the /home directory on the root filesystem is >the mount point for the /home filesystem. If the instruction to mount >your /home filesystem on the /home directory is not in /etc/fstab, it's >because you didn't set the mount point for that filesystem (whether it's >a partition or a LV) during installation. ISTR I did, but could be wrong, its quite a ways back up the log by now, so I'll plead oldtimers. Since I retired at 67 and I've been collecting SS for 8 years already, that isn't too much of a stretch. :) > (Not that it's clear you need >to do that during installation... If you know *nix filesystem >structure, you know what's needed, but if not, it's not clear how you >find out. I did a fair amount of reading when I first installed RHL >3.0.3!) Chuckle, that beats me, my first install was RH5.0. I need to install F12 here at some point, and it sure would be a hell of a lot easier if F10 had enough libraries installed to run gparted to prepare a drive the way _I_ want it and tell anaconda to go pound sand. For instance, why will it not accept a /boot partition specified for more than 199 megabytes? Why will it not accept a separate /root partition? Why will it not accept a separate /var partition? Or a separate /etc partition? When I lost my boot drive about a month ago, I used gparted to set a drive up the way my experience said it should be, then rsync'd everything to the new partitions, fixed the new drives fstab to use the labels I put on with gparted, moved the drive to the sata0 connector figuring I could boot the F10 dvd in the rescue mode and do a grub-install. But my F10 dvd had faded, so I had to get a friend to dl and burn me a fresh copy, which I then used to install grub. On the reboot I was back to a fully working F10, with one very noticeable difference, the machine is now 2-3x faster. And has remained so. All those separate partitions that the installer won't let you do? I'll let a df report testify. [root@coyote .kde]# df Filesystem 1K-blocks Used Available Use% Mounted on /dev/sda3 100790036 9356348 86313776 10% / /dev/sda1 404470 177420 206168 47% /boot /dev/sda5 30233896 8013188 20684896 28% /opt /dev/sda6 30233896 3822808 24875276 14% /home /dev/sda7 30233896 10849192 17848892 38% /root /dev/sda8 30233896 4082168 24615916 15% /var /dev/sda9 30233896 193824 28504260 1% /tmp /dev/sda10 704924448 91152808 577963560 14% /usr -- Cheers, Gene "There are four boxes to be used in defense of liberty: soap, ballot, jury, and ammo. Please use in that order." -Ed Howdershelt (Author) The NRA is offering FREE Associate memberships to anyone who wants them. <https://www.nrahq.org/nrabonus/accept-membership.asp> Don't suspect your friends -- turn them in! -- "Brazil" -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@xxxxxxxxxx To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
