Got everything re-installed from scratch (I like to take the opportunity to clean stuff up every 6 months rather than trying to upgrade :-). My first backup successfully rsynced my new installation to a USB drive in cron last night, I can VPN to work with pptp and run NX sessions, so things seem to be working well. The only really weird bug I found is this one for gdb: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=539590 (I'm convinced that somewhere in Ulrich Drepper's basement, possibly guarded by a 3 headed dog, is a copy of the secret linux cabal's design document which states the primary design goal for linux is to make life a living hell for people who work on debuggers :-). There was also this: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=531370 but a "yum install foomatic" gets that printer working. And this is fixed: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=524428 but hasn't yet made it to stable repo, so I have to install xorg-x11-drv-evdev from updates-testing to get my drag lock setting to work. I gave in and started using pulseaudio (mainly because I now have a separate sound card for doing spdif output to my sound system which I turn off in pulse and dedicate to mplayer), so I had to start the pulse daemon in my custom .xsession. Finding the /etc/xdg/autostart/ directory was useful for determining the command to run. I also now am forced to start /usr/libexec/polkit-gnome-authentication-agent-1 or none of the little tools that want to become root can ask how to do that (considering the 200 or so kernel daemons and system services that typically start, and the 30 or 40 gnome daemons that run all the time before any actual user applications get going, I wonder how long it will be before the first linux server runs out of PIDs - there are only 32K of them, and at the rate the gnome developers are following the philosophy of "Why call a subroutine when I can send dbus messages to a separate daemon instead?" it might come sooner than anyone expects :-). -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@xxxxxxxxxx To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines