On Sat, 2009-10-31 at 21:34 -0500, Mikkel wrote: > Jonathan Ryshpan wrote: > > It looks like environment variables set in .bash_profile are visible > > to applications started in gnome but not via a shell. For example > > evolution knows when I modify LC_COLLATE. > > > It depends on the type of shell. Only a login shell reads > .bash_profile. If you are starting a (x)terminal, and launching the > program from there, the default is not to run your as a login shell. Thanks to all for your advice on this. However I have a *question* and not a *problem*. I have LC_COLLATE=POSIX in .bash_profile and not in .bashrc, and everything is working just as I would like it to. If I find problems in the future, I may move it into .bashrc, which is invoked from .bash_profile, in exactly the way that Suvayu Ali recommended; this method is in the standard .bash_profile located in /etc/skel. My *question* is what process is reading .bash_profile and acquiring LC_COLLATE=POSIX. Let me repeat it: The invocation chain for evolution, namely: $ ps fax ... 1710 ? Ss 0:00 /usr/sbin/gdm-binary -nodaemon 14284 ? S 0:00 \_ /usr/libexec/gdm-simple-slave --display-id /org/gnome/Disp 14285 tty7 Ss+ 0:43 \_ /usr/bin/Xorg :0 -br -verbose -auth /var/run/gdm/auth- 14366 ? S 0:00 \_ pam: gdm-password 14413 ? Ssl 0:00 \_ gnome-session 14523 ? Sl 0:00 \_ metacity 14536 ? S 0:00 \_ gnome-panel 14537 ? S 0:00 \_ nautilus 14542 ? S 0:00 \_ /bin/sh /usr/lib64/firefox-3.5.4/run-mozilla.s 14651 ? Sl 0:41 | \_ /usr/lib64/firefox-3.5.4/firefox 14543 ? Sl 0:17 \_ evolution ... doesn't show a shell of any kind anywhere between gdm, which manages the login screen, and evolution, which knows that LC_COLLATE=POSIX. Very likely the good guy is gnome-session. Maybe I should examine the gnome-session code (What's open source for, anyway?), but I have been too lazy. Thanks to all - jon -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@xxxxxxxxxx To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines