----- Mensaje original ---- > De: "fedora-list-request@xxxxxxxxxx" <fedora-list-request@xxxxxxxxxx> > Para: fedora-list@xxxxxxxxxx > Enviado: lunes, 10 de agosto, 2009 11:30:22 > Asunto: fedora-list Digest, Vol 66, Issue 69 > > Send fedora-list mailing list submissions to > fedora-list@xxxxxxxxxx > > To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit > https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list > or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to > fedora-list-request@xxxxxxxxxx > > You can reach the person managing the list at > fedora-list-owner@xxxxxxxxxx > > When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific > than "Re: Contents of fedora-list digest..." > > > Today's Topics: > > 1. Is RhythmBox fixed yet? (William Case) > 2. Re: Recovering from a hard X lock up (James Allsopp) > 3. Re: can't boot fresh install (Mikkel L. Ellertson) > 4. Re: Recovering from a hard X lock up (Patrick O'Callaghan) > 5. Re: Recovering from a hard X lock up (Tim) > 6. F9: Yum updates (Daniel B. Thurman) > 7. Re: Recovering from a hard X lock up (James Allsopp) > 8. Re: F9: Yum updates (Rahul Sundaram) > 9. Re: windows XP deleted bootloader,need to reinstall it > (devesh gade) > 10. Re: F9: Yum updates (Daniel B. Thurman) > 11. F10: Is there any plans to fix gnome-session (saves)? > (Daniel B. Thurman) > 12. Re: F10: Is there any plans to fix gnome-session (saves)? > (Rahul Sundaram) > > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > > Message: 1 > Date: Mon, 10 Aug 2009 09:52:28 -0400 > From: William Case > Subject: Is RhythmBox fixed yet? > To: Fedora List > Message-ID: <1249912349.31806.29.camel@CASE> > Content-Type: text/plain > > Hi; > > I have seen no more complaints about RhythmBox not finding removable > media. i.e. CD music disks in CD/DVD drives. Did I miss something? > Has this problem been fixed? > > I saw some hacks for PulseAudio suggested here, but I have PulseAudio > removed so they wouldn't help me. > > I made sure I was completely updated before posting this query. > -- > Regards Bill > Fedora 11, Gnome 2.26.3 > Evo.2.26.3, Emacs 22.3.1 > > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 2 > Date: Mon, 10 Aug 2009 15:10:05 +0100 > From: James Allsopp > Subject: Re: Recovering from a hard X lock up > To: "Community assistance, encouragement, and advice for using > Fedora." > Message-ID: <4A802A3D.6060101@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 > > > > David L wrote: > > On Mon, Aug 10, 2009 at 4:39 AM, Tim wrote: > >> On Mon, 2009-08-10 at 10:39 +0100, James Allsopp wrote: > >>> My Fedora 10 machine locks up X completely, but I can still login via > >>> SSH. The monitor still shows the X window, but nothing changes, no > >>> clock, mouse nothing. X processes are still running, but not sure how to > >>> go about shutting them down. Last night, I tried to get the system to > >>> shut down sanely by running shutdown -h now and although the command ran > >>> and I couldn't login via ssh anymore, the machine did not shut down. > >>> > >>> Can anyone tell me how to shutdown and restart X properly. Tried things > >>> like startx( had a x lock file exists error) and init 3, but nothing worked. > >> If X hadn't completely locked up, CTRL+ALT+BACKSPACE would have > >> restarted X (that is BACKSPACE, the delete key that deletes to the left, > >> not the DEL key that deletes to the right). > >> > >> If the keyboard was still being listened to, then CTRL+ALT+DEL should > >> have rebooted (perhaps after hammering away at the keys a lot), as a > >> second option instead of CTRL+ALT+BACKSPACE. > > > > > > I've seen similar symptoms ... for me, the keyboard is usually > > dead I think, so any recovery procedure would have to be done > > remotely through an ssh session. I'm not sure if it's a valid way > > to tell for sure, but I usually try the caps lock/num lock to see if > > the little lights toggle to see if the keyboard is dead. Whenever > > they don't toggle, control-alt-* hasn't worked for me. Even the > > sys rq REISUB trick did nothing. I've never tried unplugging > > the USB keyboard and plugging it back in... I wonder if that could > > help recover the keyboard. > > > > Even if control-alt-backspace did work, my understanding was > > that it was disabled by default in f11, but the poster was running > > f10, so that's not his problem. > > > > Regards, > > > > David > > > Thank you for all your help; much appreciated. You're correct in > thinking that the keyboard doesn't respond to ctrl-alt-backspace, I've > tried that. I'll try the kill X next time, but last time I did that it > seemed to corrupt my boot partition and I had to use a rescue disk. > > TBH, my system is getting increasingly unstable (1 hard lock up per > day). I'm going to try and memtest, see how it gets on with a couple of > hours unreal tournament in windows to check the hardware, and if that > doesn't work I'll try upgrading to F11. If that doesn't work, new > re-install time, but I've not really got the time for that. > > On my gentoo system, if things go awry, you can just tell it to rebuild > everything, is there a similar option to reinstall all the core packages > with fedora? > > Anyway, thanks for your time with this problem. Much appreciated, > James > > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 3 > Date: Mon, 10 Aug 2009 09:12:27 -0500 > From: "Mikkel L. Ellertson" > Subject: Re: can't boot fresh install > To: "Community assistance, encouragement, and advice for using > Fedora." > Message-ID: <4A802ACB.7050702@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" > > Alan Evans wrote: > > > > Ok. Given the totality of my experience so far combined with the many > > replies I've received in this thread, I was inclined to believe that > > starting with a Mac-formatted disk was really causing me serious > > trouble. > > > > I really need a working system here, so i decided to save an image of > > the hard drive and start fresh. I dd'd the hard drive onto another, > > external drive in case I ever wanted it back, then I used fdisk to fix > > the apparently broken partition table. For good measure, I even > > created a dummy partition and ran mke2fs on it to assure the drive was > > in good shape. > > > Instead of using fdisk, use parted to create an empty partition, and > then copy your installed partition back to the drive. parted will > take care of all the little booking details so tha things should > work. It is also faster then dd because it does not need to copy the > unused parts of the partition - it understands file systems. > > Mikkel > -- > > Do not meddle in the affairs of dragons, > for thou art crunchy and taste good with Ketchup! > > -------------- next part -------------- > A non-text attachment was scrubbed... > Name: signature.asc > Type: application/pgp-signature > Size: 197 bytes > Desc: OpenPGP digital signature > Url : > https://www.redhat.com/archives/fedora-list/attachments/20090810/fd2b4d91/signature.bin > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 4 > Date: Mon, 10 Aug 2009 09:50:53 -0430 > From: "Patrick O'Callaghan" > Subject: Re: Recovering from a hard X lock up > To: fedora-list@xxxxxxxxxx > Message-ID: <1249914053.2127.12.camel@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> > Content-Type: text/plain > > On Mon, 2009-08-10 at 15:10 +0100, James Allsopp wrote: > > On my gentoo system, if things go awry, you can just tell it to > > rebuild > > everything, is there a similar option to reinstall all the core > > packages > > with fedora? > > You can verify installed rpms: > > # rpm -V ... > > See rpm(1) for more options and how to interpret the results. > > poc > > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 5 > Date: Tue, 11 Aug 2009 00:02:00 +0930 > From: Tim > Subject: Re: Recovering from a hard X lock up > To: "Community assistance, encouragement, and advice for using > Fedora." > Message-ID: <1249914720.8618.3.camel@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> > Content-Type: text/plain > > On Mon, 2009-08-10 at 15:10 +0100, James Allsopp wrote: > > I'll try the kill X next time, but last time I did that it > > seemed to corrupt my boot partition and I had to use a rescue disk. > > That sounds like there's something seriously screwy with your system if > killing X can screw up a partition that's not even being used (boot is > practically ignored, once you've booted up). > > > TBH, my system is getting increasingly unstable (1 hard lock up per > > day). I'm going to try and memtest, see how it gets on with a couple > > of hours unreal tournament in windows to check the hardware, and if > > that doesn't work I'll try upgrading to F11. If that doesn't work, new > > re-install time, but I've not really got the time for that. > > Check cooling (stuck fans, blocked fans, heatsinks full of dust, > heatsinks not well attached to hot parts). > > Check the power supply (harder to do if you're non-technical), and that > it's adequate for your hardware. If you've been adding things, you may > have added too much. > > You could have flakey hardware, or flakey drivers for specific hardware. > You could leave the computer running in run level 3, doing some hard > work, to try and eliminate the graphics hardware. > > -- > [tim@localhost ~]$ uname -r > 2.6.27.25-78.2.56.fc9.i686 > > Don't send private replies to my address, the mailbox is ignored. I > read messages from the public lists. > > > > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 6 > Date: Mon, 10 Aug 2009 08:26:46 -0700 > From: "Daniel B. Thurman" > Subject: F9: Yum updates > To: Fedora Users > Message-ID: <4A803C36.3050702@xxxxxxxxx> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed > > > How can one tell when the updates were last > issued? Seems that I have not had an update > for F9 for quite some time. Just wanted to > make sure there is not a problem with my > yum programs, thanks! > > Dan > > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 7 > Date: Mon, 10 Aug 2009 16:29:04 +0100 > From: James Allsopp > Subject: Re: Recovering from a hard X lock up > To: "Community assistance, encouragement, and advice for using > Fedora." > Message-ID: <4A803CC0.9090002@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 > > > Tim wrote: > > On Mon, 2009-08-10 at 15:10 +0100, James Allsopp wrote: > >> I'll try the kill X next time, but last time I did that it > >> seemed to corrupt my boot partition and I had to use a rescue disk. > > > > That sounds like there's something seriously screwy with your system if > > killing X can screw up a partition that's not even being used (boot is > > practically ignored, once you've booted up). > > > >> TBH, my system is getting increasingly unstable (1 hard lock up per > >> day). I'm going to try and memtest, see how it gets on with a couple > >> of hours unreal tournament in windows to check the hardware, and if > >> that doesn't work I'll try upgrading to F11. If that doesn't work, new > >> re-install time, but I've not really got the time for that. > > > > Check cooling (stuck fans, blocked fans, heatsinks full of dust, > > heatsinks not well attached to hot parts). > > > > Check the power supply (harder to do if you're non-technical), and that > > it's adequate for your hardware. If you've been adding things, you may > > have added too much. > > > > You could have flakey hardware, or flakey drivers for specific hardware. > > You could leave the computer running in run level 3, doing some hard > > work, to try and eliminate the graphics hardware. > > > > I'm going to check the cooling tonight. I'm running an old nvidia FX5200 > card with the legacy nvidia drivers. > > Thanks for the suggestions, > James > > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 8 > Date: Mon, 10 Aug 2009 20:58:26 +0530 > From: Rahul Sundaram > Subject: Re: F9: Yum updates > To: "Community assistance, encouragement, and advice for using > Fedora." > Message-ID: <4A803C9A.2000805@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 > > On 08/10/2009 08:56 PM, Daniel B. Thurman wrote: > > > > How can one tell when the updates were last > > issued? Seems that I have not had an update > > for F9 for quite some time. Just wanted to > > make sure there is not a problem with my > > yum programs, thanks! > > Fedora 9 has reached End of Life for sometime now. > > http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/End_of_life > > You need to upgrade to Fedora 10 or 11 to continue receiving updates. > > Rahul > > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 9 > Date: Mon, 10 Aug 2009 21:05:56 +0530 > From: devesh gade > Subject: Re: windows XP deleted bootloader,need to reinstall it > To: "Community assistance, encouragement, and advice for using > Fedora." > Message-ID: > <7704e360908100835p9bf6a26wcb2d2ac303db569f@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" > > hello...sorry for being late.... > anyways,the output of the fdisk -l command is as folows: > > Boot Start End Id System > /dev/sda1 * .... .... ... > HPFS/NTFS > /dev/sda2 ... ... ... Linux > /dev/sda3 ..... .... .... Linux > LVM > /dev/sda4 .... .... ..... W95 > Ext'd (LBA) > /dev/sda5 ... ... ... > HPFS/NTFS > > Once the system mounted on /mnt/sysimage ,I performed the following steps: > On running the 'grub-install /dev/sda1' comand, the output is > Unrecognized command /sbin/grub > On running 'whereis grub-install' i get output as > grub-install:/usr/sbin/grub-install > > Then i use this path to run the command,however it gives same output as in > the first case. > Please corect me if i have gone wrong anywhere above. > So the question remains-how do i install the grub?? > > > On 07/08/2009, Tim wrote: > > > > On Fri, 2009-08-07 at 00:44 +0530, devesh gade wrote: > > > Inserted installation cd in rescue mode and then following commands at > > > the prompt: > > > 1 grub > > > 2 root (hd0,0) > > > 3 setup (hd0) > > > 4 exit > > > 5 reboot > > > > > > However even after rebooting the grub screen does not show up at > > > startup and Windows XP boots by default. > > > > Obvious questions: > > > > Is hd0,0 the right drive and partition to work on? > > Do you have more than one drive? > > > > Running "fdisk -l" can list all the available drives and partitions, you > > could post the output, here. > > > > -- > > [tim@localhost ~]$ uname -r > > 2.6.27.25-78.2.56.fc9.i686 > > > > Don't send private replies to my address, the mailbox is ignored. I > > read messages from the public lists. > > > > > > > > -- > > fedora-list mailing list > > fedora-list@xxxxxxxxxx > > To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list > > Guidelines: > > http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines > > > > > > -- > Tough times dont last,Tough People Do. > -------------- next part -------------- > An HTML attachment was scrubbed... > URL: > https://www.redhat.com/archives/fedora-list/attachments/20090810/b9c393bc/attachment.html > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 10 > Date: Mon, 10 Aug 2009 08:36:30 -0700 > From: "Daniel B. Thurman" > Subject: Re: F9: Yum updates > To: sundaram@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx, "Community assistance, encouragement, > and advice for using Fedora." > Message-ID: <4A803E7E.2050107@xxxxxxxxx> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed > > Rahul Sundaram wrote: > > On 08/10/2009 08:56 PM, Daniel B. Thurman wrote: > > > >> How can one tell when the updates were last > >> issued? Seems that I have not had an update > >> for F9 for quite some time. Just wanted to > >> make sure there is not a problem with my > >> yum programs, thanks! > >> > > > > Fedora 9 has reached End of Life for sometime now. > > > > http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/End_of_life > > > > You need to upgrade to Fedora 10 or 11 to continue receiving updates. > > > > Rahul > > > > > Ok! Thanks. > > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 11 > Date: Mon, 10 Aug 2009 08:39:30 -0700 > From: "Daniel B. Thurman" > Subject: F10: Is there any plans to fix gnome-session (saves)? > To: Fedora Users > Message-ID: <4A803F32.6030802@xxxxxxxxx> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed > > > As the subject says. I was wondering if there > are any plans to fix the gnome session saves > for F10? > > Thanks! > Dan > > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 12 > Date: Mon, 10 Aug 2009 21:11:25 +0530 > From: Rahul Sundaram > Subject: Re: F10: Is there any plans to fix gnome-session (saves)? > To: "Community assistance, encouragement, and advice for using > Fedora." > Message-ID: <4A803FA5.5040403@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 > > On 08/10/2009 09:09 PM, Daniel B. Thurman wrote: > > > > As the subject says. I was wondering if there > > are any plans to fix the gnome session saves > > for F10? > > Unlikely. It would have happened by now otherwise. Fedora 11 does fix > this problem however. > > Rahul > > > > ------------------------------ > > -- > fedora-list mailing list > fedora-list@xxxxxxxxxx > https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list > > End of fedora-list Digest, Vol 66, Issue 69 > ******************************************* -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@xxxxxxxxxx To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines