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Today's Topics:
1. Re: How to gut &%$#&#@ Firefox? (Frank Cox)
2. Re: Problem: CUPS re-writing printers.conf (Hiisi)
3. Re: Google Earth for x86_64? (Kevin J. Cummings)
4. Re: Google Earth for x86_64? (Max Pyziur)
5. Re: Google Earth for x86_64? (Patrick O'Callaghan)
6. Re: no send/receive in evolution (Patrick O'Callaghan)
7. Re: With Skype, no sound (Paul Smith)
8. Re: no send/receive in evolution (Matthew Saltzman)
9. Firefox on F9 with latest 64bit flash (Paolo Galtieri)
10. Re: How to gut &%$#&#@ Firefox? (Matthew Saltzman)
11. Re: How to gut &%$#&#@ Firefox? (Beartooth)
12. Re: How to gut &%$#&#@ Firefox? (Frank Cox)
13. Re: How to gut &%$#&#@ Firefox? (Peter Boy)
14. Re: How to gut &%$#&#@ Firefox? (Tom Horsley)
15. Re: no send/receive in evolution (Amadeus W.M.)
16. Re: How to gut &%$#&#@ Firefox? (Beartooth)
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Message: 1
Date: Sun, 02 Aug 2009 14:02:47 -0600
From: Frank Cox <theatre@xxxxxxxxxxx>
Subject: Re: How to gut &%$#&#@ Firefox?
To: "=?ISO-8859-1?Q? Community_assistance, _encouragement,
=09and_advice_for_?= using Fedora. " <fedora-list@xxxxxxxxxx>
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On Sun, 02 Aug 2009 15:00:06 -0430
Patrick O'Callaghan wrote:
> Complain to Mozilla. They have a Bugzilla page. If you post the number
> here I'm sure a lot of people will back you up.
It's not Mozilla. It's the Fedora packaging.
> Actually I don't mind the language extensions per se. What I do mind is
> the insanely tedious process of disabling them one by one, especially as
> the disabled state is not persistent across FF versions.
It's not that tedious, only one command:
rm -fr /usr/lib/firefox-*/extensions/langpack-*
rm -fr /usr/lib64/firefox-*/extensions/langpack-*
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Message: 2
Date: Mon, 03 Aug 2009 00:04:12 +0400
From: Hiisi <very-cool@xxxxxxxxxx>
Subject: Re: Problem: CUPS re-writing printers.conf
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> Glad you got it sorted. Just before we leave this, and to make it
> complete
> for the archives, how about adding the command that gave you your
> troubleshoot.txt?
>
> Anne
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I really would like to see it. I have some kind of problem sharing USB
printer connected to F11 machine in my home network. Please, give us the
instruction!
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Message: 3
Date: Sun, 02 Aug 2009 16:05:50 -0400
From: "Kevin J. Cummings" <cummings@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Subject: Re: Google Earth for x86_64?
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On 08/02/2009 03:53 PM, Patrick O'Callaghan wrote:
> On Sun, 2009-08-02 at 15:19 -0400, Max Pyziur wrote:
>> Any chance of there being a version of Google Earth for x86_64 that
>> doesn't freeze X?
>
> It's not Google Earth, it's the blasted Intel driver. The current one
> breaks when using OpenGL (the Mesa library). I've reported this, as have
> other people, but had no reaction so far.
It also happens with the radeon driver as well....
Whether or not the drivers support or don't support 3D, it shouldn't
cause X to hang. It takes out both the mouse movement and the keyboard
with it. I can still see disk activity, so I can only assume that my
direct interface to the laptop is useless when this happens. It would
be nice if I could at least change to another VT and bag X....
> Feel free to add your comments at:
> https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=510948
>
> It's beyond a joke that this should be so completely broken. Some people
> have had luck downgrading to the previous stable version ("yum downgrade
> mesa\*") but YYMV of course.
>
> poc
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Message: 4
Date: Sun, 2 Aug 2009 16:10:42 -0400 (EDT)
From: "Max Pyziur" <pyz@xxxxxxxxx>
Subject: Re: Google Earth for x86_64?
To: "Community assistance, encouragement, and advice for using
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> On 08/02/2009 03:53 PM, Patrick O'Callaghan wrote:
>> On Sun, 2009-08-02 at 15:19 -0400, Max Pyziur wrote:
>>> Any chance of there being a version of Google Earth for x86_64 that
>>> doesn't freeze X?
>>
>> It's not Google Earth, it's the blasted Intel driver. The current one
>> breaks when using OpenGL (the Mesa library). I've reported this, as have
>> other people, but had no reaction so far.
>
> It also happens with the radeon driver as well....
>
> Whether or not the drivers support or don't support 3D, it shouldn't
> cause X to hang. It takes out both the mouse movement and the keyboard
> with it. I can still see disk activity, so I can only assume that my
> direct interface to the laptop is useless when this happens. It would
> be nice if I could at least change to another VT and bag X....
Given the fact that it takes out the keyboard and the mouse and all
activity stops onscreen, I remotely ssh from another box to reboot the
machine.
fyi,
Max Pyziur
pyz@xxxxxxxxx
>> Feel free to add your comments at:
>> https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=510948
>>
>> It's beyond a joke that this should be so completely broken. Some people
>> have had luck downgrading to the previous stable version ("yum downgrade
>> mesa\*") but YYMV of course.
>>
>> poc
>
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Message: 5
Date: Sun, 02 Aug 2009 15:40:35 -0430
From: "Patrick O'Callaghan" <pocallaghan@xxxxxxxxx>
Subject: Re: Google Earth for x86_64?
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On Sun, 2009-08-02 at 16:05 -0400, Kevin J. Cummings wrote:
> On 08/02/2009 03:53 PM, Patrick O'Callaghan wrote:
> > On Sun, 2009-08-02 at 15:19 -0400, Max Pyziur wrote:
> >> Any chance of there being a version of Google Earth for x86_64 that
> >> doesn't freeze X?
> >
> > It's not Google Earth, it's the blasted Intel driver. The current one
> > breaks when using OpenGL (the Mesa library). I've reported this, as have
> > other people, but had no reaction so far.
>
> It also happens with the radeon driver as well....
Interesting. Perhaps you could add that to the BZ page. The more
comments the better.
> Whether or not the drivers support or don't support 3D, it shouldn't
> cause X to hang. It takes out both the mouse movement and the keyboard
> with it. I can still see disk activity, so I can only assume that my
> direct interface to the laptop is useless when this happens. It would
> be nice if I could at least change to another VT and bag X....
For me the mouse cursor keeps moving but that's it. I have to reboot.
Even logging in via ssh from elsewhere and trying to kill X doesn't
work.
poc
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Message: 6
Date: Sun, 02 Aug 2009 15:42:17 -0430
From: "Patrick O'Callaghan" <pocallaghan@xxxxxxxxx>
Subject: Re: no send/receive in evolution
To: fedora-list@xxxxxxxxxx
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On Sun, 2009-08-02 at 20:01 +0000, Amadeus W.M. wrote:
> On Mon, 03 Aug 2009 00:34:56 +0930, Tim wrote:
>
> > On Sun, 2009-08-02 at 14:23 +0000, Amadeus W.M. wrote:
> >> My send/receive button in evolution is grayed out so unusable. Is there
> >> any option to re-enable it? Anybody else seeing this?
> >
> > You're probably "working offline," see the file menu on the main window,
> > or the plug and socket icon at the bottom left of the main window.
> >
> >> Also, sometimes when sending messages they just get stuck in the
> >> Outbox. I'd have to click on send/receive, but I can't.
> >
> > Again, probably the same thing. You may have accidentally put yours
> > into offline mode, or NetworkManager may have done so (it deciding that
> > you're offline, so it puts your applications into offline mode, and
> > mayn't put them back into online mode when you go online).
> >
>
> That was it. There was a power outage in my area and I do have power
> backup for my pcs, but the router is not plugged into the ups. Before I
> turned the pc off, NM must have forced evolution offline. I didn't know NM
> had such powers. All is well now, thanks!
To be clear: NM isn't doing anything directly to Evo. Evo is doing it to
itself because it believes NM when the latter says it's offline.
poc
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Message: 7
Date: Sun, 2 Aug 2009 21:52:03 +0100
From: Paul Smith <phhs80@xxxxxxxxx>
Subject: Re: With Skype, no sound
To: "Community assistance, encouragement, and advice for using
Fedora." <fedora-list@xxxxxxxxxx>
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On Fri, Jul 31, 2009 at 6:48 PM, Paul Smith<phhs80@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>>>> I also run a 64 bit system, and I think sound with skype on 64 bit F11
>>>> doesn't work like it used to for F10. :(
>>>
>>> I'm running F11-x86_64 and don't have any trouble with sound. If you
>>> install Skype with yum, it should take care of any 32-bit dependencies.
>>
>> Well, Joel, I did install my Skype with yum and the Skype repository,
>> but no success.
>
> The problem was solved with
>
> yum install alsa-plugins-pulseaudio-1.0.20-2.fc11.i586
Yes, the problem was fixed on my desktop computer. However, with my
laptop, I am getting no sound and the following messages on the
console:
$ ALSA lib control.c:909:(snd_ctl_open_noupdate) Invalid CTL hdmi
ALSA lib control.c:909:(snd_ctl_open_noupdate) Invalid CTL hdmi
ALSA lib control.c:909:(snd_ctl_open_noupdate) Invalid CTL hdmi
ALSA lib control.c:909:(snd_ctl_open_noupdate) Invalid CTL hdmi
ALSA lib control.c:909:(snd_ctl_open_noupdate) Invalid CTL hdmi
ALSA lib control.c:909:(snd_ctl_open_noupdate) Invalid CTL hdmi
Any ideas?
Paul
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Message: 8
Date: Sun, 02 Aug 2009 16:59:04 -0400
From: Matthew Saltzman <mjs@xxxxxxxxxxx>
Subject: Re: no send/receive in evolution
To: "Community assistance, encouragement, and advice for using
Fedora." <fedora-list@xxxxxxxxxx>
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On Sun, 2009-08-02 at 20:01 +0000, Amadeus W.M. wrote:
> On Mon, 03 Aug 2009 00:34:56 +0930, Tim wrote:
>
> There was a power outage in my area and I do have power
> backup for my pcs, but the router is not plugged into the ups. Before I
> turned the pc off, NM must have forced evolution offline. I didn't know NM
> had such powers. All is well now, thanks!
I think the applications test periodically to see if they are online.
If I'm wrong, then what happens is NM notifies a service (dbus) that
you've gone offline and the apps either poll that or receive
notification from it.
Corrections welcome from knowledgeable respondents.
--
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Clemson University Math Sciences
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Message: 9
Date: Sun, 02 Aug 2009 14:02:32 -0700
From: Paolo Galtieri <pgaltieri@xxxxxxxxx>
Subject: Firefox on F9 with latest 64bit flash
To: fedora-list@xxxxxxxxxx
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I'm having a problem with firefox and the latest 64 bit flashplayer on
F9. Every time I go to youtube.com firefox crashes with the following:
$ firefox
/usr/lib64/firefox-3.0.11/run-mozilla.sh: line 131: 24767 Segmentation
fault "$prog" ${1+"$@"}
has anyone else seen this?
I moved my ~/.mozilla directory out of the way and restarted firefox.
This resulted in a new ~/.mozilla and everything works fine at this
point. I can go to youtube.com and firefox doesn't crash. I can't play
any videos since they require the flash plugin. I create
.mozilla/plugins and copy libflashplayer.so into that directory and
restart firefox. As soon as I go to youtube.com firefox crashes.
$ md5sum .mozilla/plugins/libflashplayer.so
9903881108ff7cd954a3adf0d00185d3 .mozilla/plugins/libflashplayer.so
$ file ~/.mozilla/plugins/libflashplayer.so
/home/pgaltieri/.mozilla/plugins/libflashplayer.so: ELF 64-bit LSB
shared object, x86-64, version 1 (SYSV), stripped
I have the same version of libflashplayer.so running on F11 and firefox
does not crash there, however, I'm running the 3.5.1 version of firefox
on F11.
I tried an older version of libflashplayer.so and the same thing happened.
Any thoughts as to what the problem might be and how to fix it?
Paolo
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Message: 10
Date: Sun, 02 Aug 2009 17:02:50 -0400
From: Matthew Saltzman <mjs@xxxxxxxxxxx>
Subject: Re: How to gut &%$#&#@ Firefox?
To: "Community assistance, encouragement, and advice for using
Fedora." <fedora-list@xxxxxxxxxx>
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On Sun, 2009-08-02 at 15:00 -0430, Patrick O'Callaghan wrote:
> On Sun, 2009-08-02 at 19:06 +0000, Beartooth wrote:
> > They make it incredibly tedious to get rid of all their miserable
> > language-pack cruft -- and the minute you turn your back, they shove it
> > all in again.
> >
> > Is there a way to prevent / disable that abominable practice?
>
> Complain to Mozilla. They have a Bugzilla page. If you post the number
> here I'm sure a lot of people will back you up.
I think this is a Fedora packaging issue. ISTR a discussion about
changing the packaging of Fx language packs in the future, but I don't
recall the outcome.
File a bug in Bugzilla (if there isn't one already). If it's an
upstream issue, it can be pushed from there.
>
> Actually I don't mind the language extensions per se. What I do mind is
> the insanely tedious process of disabling them one by one, especially as
> the disabled state is not persistent across FF versions.
>
> > Or has the time come to admit that the blasted browser is not
> > worth the trouble it takes?
>
> I still prefer it to the alternatives.
>
> poc
>
>
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Clemson University Math Sciences
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Message: 11
Date: Sun, 2 Aug 2009 21:17:42 +0000 (UTC)
From: Beartooth <beartooth@xxxxxxxxxxx>
Subject: Re: How to gut &%$#&#@ Firefox?
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On Sun, 02 Aug 2009 15:00:06 -0430, Patrick O'Callaghan wrote:
> On Sun, 2009-08-02 at 19:06 +0000, Beartooth wrote:
>> They make it incredibly tedious to get rid of all their miserable
>> language-pack cruft -- and the minute you turn your back, they shove it
>> all in again.
>>
>> Is there a way to prevent / disable that abominable practice?
>
> Complain to Mozilla. They have a Bugzilla page. If you post the number
> here I'm sure a lot of people will back you up.
I'd've been glad to -- till it kept telling me over and over, no
matter what else I did, that my ID or password was invalid. This has been
absolutely typical of every attempt I have ever made to use mozillazine
or any other never-to-be-sufficiently-accursed mozilla site. (That's one
reason I posted here, instead of to one of their &%$#& exercises in
frustration.) If I get onto some site of theirs at all, it turns out
absurdly difficult to find anything, and worse to post.
> Actually I don't mind the language extensions per se. What I do mind is
> the insanely tedious process of disabling them one by one, especially as
> the disabled state is not persistent across FF versions.
Almost exactly what I was trying to say. Only disabling is not
nearly good enough. If you su - a terminal tab to root and launch firefox
from the CLI, you can uninstall instead. It's no more tedious, and then
at least they're off your machine -- for a while.
>> Or has the time come to admit that the blasted browser is not
>> worth the trouble it takes?
>
> I still prefer it to the alternatives.
There are a few extensions on account of which I've been keeping
it; but that motive grows ever fainter. If I can get those extensions on
some other browser, Firefox (which, alas!, I have used and advocated
since it was Phoenix 0.4) is toast, and good riddance.
--
Beartooth Staffwright, Neo-Redneck Not Quite Clueless Power User
I have precious (very precious!) little idea where up is.
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Message: 12
Date: Sun, 02 Aug 2009 15:29:16 -0600
From: Frank Cox <theatre@xxxxxxxxxxx>
Subject: Re: How to gut &%$#&#@ Firefox?
To: "=?ISO-8859-1?Q? Community_assistance, _encouragement,
=09and_advice_for_?= using Fedora. " <fedora-list@xxxxxxxxxx>
Cc: Beartooth <beartooth@xxxxxxxxxxx>
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On Sun, 02 Aug 2009 21:17:42 +0000 (UTC)
Beartooth wrote:
> If you su - a terminal tab to root and launch firefox
> from the CLI, you can uninstall instead. It's no more tedious, and then
> at least they're off your machine -- for a while.
You don't need to uninstall the langpacks through Firefox. You can do it with
one single command, as I posted earlier in this thread.
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Message: 13
Date: Sun, 02 Aug 2009 23:31:53 +0200
From: Peter Boy <pboy@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Subject: Re: How to gut &%$#&#@ Firefox?
To: "Community assistance, encouragement, and advice for using
Fedora." <fedora-list@xxxxxxxxxx>
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Am Sonntag, den 02.08.2009, 14:02 -0600 schrieb Frank Cox:
> It's not that tedious, only one command:
>
> rm -fr /usr/lib/firefox-*/extensions/langpack-*
>
> rm -fr /usr/lib64/firefox-*/extensions/langpack-*
>
But may be tedious afterwards if you need to have a single, namely your
native, non-english language.
And, generally, it's not a good idea to delete files which are managed
by a package manager.
Peter
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Message: 14
Date: Sun, 2 Aug 2009 17:34:37 -0400
From: Tom Horsley <tom.horsley@xxxxxxx>
Subject: Re: How to gut &%$#&#@ Firefox?
To: fedora-list@xxxxxxxxxx
Message-ID: <20090802173437.6cd669fd@zooty>
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On Sun, 02 Aug 2009 15:29:16 -0600
Frank Cox wrote:
> You don't need to uninstall the langpacks through Firefox. You can do it with
> one single command, as I posted earlier in this thread.
Thanks! That looks like something that will be going in my fix-firefox
script which I automatically run via the after-yum-hook I whipped
out one day that automatically runs my collection of fixup scripts
every time yum finishes :-). Very useful to beat back undead
things that keep getting reinstalled by updates...
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Message: 15
Date: Sun, 2 Aug 2009 21:44:05 +0000 (UTC)
From: "Amadeus W.M." <amadeus84@xxxxxxxxxxx>
Subject: Re: no send/receive in evolution
To: fedora-list@xxxxxxxxxx
Message-ID: <pan.2009.08.02.21.44.05@xxxxxxxxxxx>
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> To be clear: NM isn't doing anything directly to Evo. Evo is doing it to
> itself because it believes NM when the latter says it's offline.
>
Makes perfect sense. Thanks for the clarification.
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Message: 16
Date: Sun, 2 Aug 2009 21:49:38 +0000 (UTC)
From: Beartooth <beartooth@xxxxxxxxxxx>
Subject: Re: How to gut &%$#&#@ Firefox?
To: fedora-list@xxxxxxxxxx
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On Sun, 02 Aug 2009 17:02:50 -0400, Matthew Saltzman wrote:
> On Sun, 2009-08-02 at 15:00 -0430, Patrick O'Callaghan wrote:
[...]
>> Complain to Mozilla. They have a Bugzilla page. If you post the number
>> here I'm sure a lot of people will back you up.
Tried repeatedly; failed; details above.
> I think this is a Fedora packaging issue. ISTR a discussion about
> changing the packaging of Fx language packs in the future, but I don't
> recall the outcome.
>
> File a bug in Bugzilla (if there isn't one already). If it's an
> upstream issue, it can be pushed from there.
I took you to mean a bug against Fedora. It is now Bug 515153.
Thank you.
Y'all pile on, now!
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