Marko Vojinovic wrote: > On Saturday 25 July 2009 06:11:30 gilpel@xxxxxxxxxx wrote: >> jack craig wrote: >>>> Really, pausing for a few seconds still seems to me like the best >>>> option. >>>> The way out is easier than I thought but when a newbie comes to Linux >>>> and >>>> he's already afraid because everybody says that Fedora is for experts >>>> only, he might not look further and give up. >>> no pain, no gain, ... >> and no market share. > > Market share has nothing specific to do with Fedora. Ubuntu should be distro of > choice for newbies and market share gaining, not Fedora. If Ubuntu is also > configured not to have that two second pause in grub, you should ask *them* to > fix it, since they have a lot of newbies who might get into trouble without it. > > If a newbie tries Fedora and gets disappointed, the problem is not the default > configuration choices of Fedora, but the user choice of the distro. > > There are different levels of user-friendlyness. Fedora is mainly targeting > users who are already devoted to Linux, so its default configuration tries to > be seasoned-user-friendly, not newbie-friendly. Better go whine on the Ubuntu > list for such defaults. Fedora is simply not the distro that should be used > for advertizing Linux to newbies and gaining potential market share. > > Being a Linux user since RH 6.2 days, I am quite happy with the default config > of grub in Fedora, and I guess most Fedora users are also fine with it. Those > who are not are usually proficient enough to customize it themselves to meet > their needs. I have followed this thread inspire of myself. :-) Each of you makes good points and offer good information. All of which the OP refuses to take into consideration. Plainly and simply said. (Puts on flame proof suit here). Fedora has its place. Fedora is a distribution for the user that is smarter that what they are doing. The user that can solve a little problem. A user that, with some suggestions and pointers, can solve a more difficult problem. A user that will, after trying these suggestion and tips, see what could be a bug and reports it. A user that works with the developer(s) to correct the bug. For themselves and for others. (K)Ubuntu has its place. They are distribution for the 'install it and forget it' crowd. They do all the setups and configuration and all of the nanny hand holding. This 'install it and forget it' crowd then sits in front of the monitor and 'surfs the web'. They play their mp3s. They watch their videos. These users, the 'install it and forget it' crowd, are the ones that show up on this list with the 'this is crap!!!!!!!!' and 'my stuff don't' work!!!!!" rants and whines. Notice the excessive punctuation. :-) Or sometimes the write blog entries to this list. Like karl did. And Karl 1.2 is doing today. Nuf Sed. /Plunk -- David
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