I've just noticed F12 is moving towards NetworkManager for system-wide connections. https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Features/NetworkManagerSystemConnections In principle it's a good thing, but with Fedora 11 I'm still having NM problems on two completely different wireless chipsets (rt2500 and iwl3945) which still refuse to do DHCP, which has been an intermittent problem since I first started trying to use NM (say around Fedora 8). It is always blamed on bugs in the drivers, which may be the case, but NM has always seemed less tolerant of these kinds of problems than the old system-config-network approach. Particularly since both cards work properly once static IP has been set up. I'm also worried that when other problems (such as recent difficulties I had with SElinux policies preventing graphical login) occur they will be harder to fix as it seems more likely that NM will be affected by other issues, resulting in trying to fix problems without a network connection available. Is anyone able to reassure me that NM will finally work this time? -- imalone -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@xxxxxxxxxx To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines