typically, when i install fedora, i install the above group since i know that i'll be working with docbook and XML and so on. but it seems that that group could stand some redefining, and possibly refactoring into smaller bite-sized pieces. here's the current definition: Group: Authoring and Publishing Description: These tools allow you to create documents in the DocBook format and convert them into HTML, PDF, Postscript, and text. Default Packages: docbook-slides docbook-style-dsssl docbook-style-xsl docbook-utils docbook-utils-pdf linuxdoc-tools texlive xhtml1-dtds xmlto Optional Packages: BibTool abcm2ps conglomerate dblatex docbook2X html401-dtds kile latex-mk latexmk lilypond lout ooo2txt python-docutils scribus tetex-prosper txt2rss w3c-markup-validator xdvik xmlcopyeditor Conditional Packages: tex-cm-lgc now that list is certainly not complete -- i just filed a bugzilla request to add the packages "docbook5-schemas" and "docbook5-style-xsl" since they seem to belong there. but there are a lot of other packages that would seem to qualify as well if we're talking about generating output formats from XML: $ yum search fop fop.noarch : XSL-driven print formatter fop-javadoc.noarch : Javadoc for fop ... $ yum search xalan xalan-c.i586 : Xalan XSLT processor for C xalan-c.x86_64 : Xalan XSLT processor for C xalan-c-devel.i586 : Header files, libraries and development documentation for xalan-cxalan-c-devel.x86_64 : Header files, libraries and development documentation for xalan-c xalan-c-doc.x86_64 : Documentation for Xerces-C++ validating XML parser xalan-j2.x86_64 : Java XSLT processor xalan-j2-demo.x86_64 : Demo for xalan-j2 xalan-j2-javadoc.x86_64 : Javadoc for xalan-j2 xalan-j2-manual.x86_64 : Manual for xalan-j2 xalan-j2-xsltc.x86_64 : XSLT compiler ... $ yum search saxon saxon.noarch : Java XSLT processor saxon-aelfred.noarch : Java XML parser saxon-demo.noarch : Demos for saxon saxon-javadoc.noarch : Javadoc for saxon saxon-jdom.noarch : JDOM support for saxon saxon-manual.noarch : Manual for saxon saxon-scripts.noarch : Utility scripts for saxon ... it seems only fair that the above packages belong in the "Authoring and Publishing" group as well, no? and if "scribus" is there, surely "publican" belongs, too. on the flip side, some of that content could be removed, perhaps in huge chunks. for instance, everything related to "tex" could be broken out and placed in its own subgroup. AFAICT, tex is entirely self-contained, is it not? so all tex-related packages could be removed without affecting the rest. in addition, there are packages that work strictly(?) with SGML (docbook-utils, docbook-utils-pdf) and so may not be of much interest to people dealing strictly with XML input. anyway, you get the idea. that entire yum group looks a bit chaotic and ill-defined, and it might not be out of line to have a breakdown of everything related to that topic in smaller subgroups to pick and choose just what you want. thoughts? rday -- ======================================================================== Robert P. J. Day Waterloo, Ontario, CANADA Linux Consulting, Training and Annoying Kernel Pedantry. Web page: http://crashcourse.ca Linked In: http://www.linkedin.com/in/rpjday Twitter: http://twitter.com/rpjday ======================================================================== -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@xxxxxxxxxx To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines