Sometimes it tells me that certain things can't be removed (Error removing file: Permission denied) -- even though their owner is my userid -- and sometimes it just does nothing. Ir I right click on one of the items in the trash, then on Properties, then on Permissions, it tells me I own it; but if I try to change group folder access, it says 'Sorry, could not change the permissions of "192.168.1.100": Operation not supported by backend.' This happened once before, with F10 iirc, and that time I managed to get to the trash as root and deleted the stuff; but alas!, I can neither recall nor reconstruct how I did it. As root at /home/btth, if I do ls|grep Trash, I get no hits. Similarly at /home/btth/Desktop. If I click on it, click file, then Open Location, it tells me "trash:///" -- but I can't cd to it. (Open Parent is grayed out.) -- Beartooth Staffwright, Neo-Redneck Not Quite Clueless Power User I have precious (very precious!) little idea where up is. -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@xxxxxxxxxx To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines