On Fri, 05 Jun 2009 13:30:03 -0400, Paul W. Frields wrote: > On Fri, Jun 05, 2009 at 04:33:25PM +0000, Beartooth wrote: >> On Fri, 05 Jun 2009 16:01:32 +0000, Beartooth wrote: >> >> > When I click the launcher for gpk-update-viewer, it gets an error >> > popup saying "No network connection available," even though one is, >> > and every other app is using it. The "Details" in the popup say >> > merely "Cannot refresh cache whilst offline." >> >> I happened to think of stopping NetworkManager. Sure enough, now >> PackageKit works. I hope that tells somebody something. > > Is it possible your messagebus (D-Bus) had a problem? Do you have any > other D-Bus listeners that are having problems? I have no faintest inkling; how do I check? Searching messagebus got me a file called /etc/rc.d/init.d, which Fedora opened with GVIM. What I know of any form of vi is how to spell it; but I looked. It's all in code, of course, and Greek to me; I don't see a mention of NM there. > The easiest way to test is to reboot and see if the problem persists. > (Yes, this is not the only way, but it's easiest if you don't want to > get into start/stopping services, and so forth.) We've had several power failures lately; there's crew moving the power lines from poles to underground. So I've rebooted three or four times, if not more, just in the last week. The problem has survived that. > If it *does* persist, check your PK configuration perhaps? > > [paul@salma ~]$ grep UseNetworkManager /etc/PackageKit/PackageKit.conf > UseNetworkManager=true I get the same, after I c&p the grep command to a prompt. > (The default configuration is "true," by the way.) If PK is supposed to > be using NetworkManager for managing your network connection and you > disable a network connection in NM without telling it that you're > managing it elsewhere, it may tell other apps that no network exists. The problem exists only on this one machine. I thought I had disabled NM some time ago in system-config-services; maybe some reboot restarted it?? > You can set manual configurations in NetworkManager, or if you set them > with system-config-network, you can mark them as not to be managed by > NetworkManager, and PK's heuristics should just do the right thing. I have seen those markings somewhere, but don't find them now. According to gedit, nm-system-settings.conf contains only [main] plugins=ifcfg-rh I don't find anything jumping out at me in /etc/PackageKit/ PackageKit.conf -- but maybe I wouldn't ... -- Beartooth Staffwright, PhD, Neo-Redneck Linux Convert Remember I know precious little of what I am talking about. -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@xxxxxxxxxx To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines