2009/6/5 Rick Stevens <ricks@xxxxxxxx>: > Kevin Kofler wrote: >> >> Rick Stevens wrote: >>> >>> Regardless of your feelings about proprietary software, the vast >>> majority of Windows users--through ignorance, stupidity or laziness-- >>> use Skype. There's no getting around it. Sorry, but that's just how >>> it is. No one said life was fair or was going to conform to your >>> expectations, despite how noble they may be. >> >> By accepting that "everyone else uses Skype, so I will too" you're >> contributing to the problem, because the people who want to talk to you >> over VoIP will think the same because of you. > > I knew this was going to devolve into a pissing contest. We have > different views of the world, obviously. You want it absolutely pure > OSS. Fine. I'd like it to be OSS. No matter how much we want it, it's > simply not going to happen. > > I am a realist. <snip> Thank you sir, I was thinking earlier about whether I should note the difference between an idealist and a realist/pragmatist, but I went and had a cup of tea instead. When I came back, you'd done all the work. I appreciate Kevin's point of view (and I will defend to the death his right to hold it), BUT I don't mind using the occasional piece of closed-source software when the time is right and at the appropriate juncture. That said, I don't use Skype ;o) +1 to you (I'm a realist because I use kmod-nvidia) -- Sam -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@xxxxxxxxxx To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines