On Sunday 31 May 2009, Kevin Kofler wrote: >Gene Heskett wrote: >> Also, I tried to join the pulse mailing list, but FF had a whole cow over >> the https certificate, and I have never seen such a strong warning from FF >> before so I didn't ok it. Could someone advise Lennert that his sites ssh >> certificate is dead or compromised? > >Most likely it's just a self-signed SSL certificate. Very common, and >Firefox stupidly throws a fit over it (which is dumb because it encourages >sites to just use unencrypted HTTP instead, which is even less secure, yet >gets through with no warning). Just OK the certificate. > > Kevin Kofler Its a self signed certificate, apparently it is more paranoid about that than it is about an expired certificate. But then since its a redhat certificate, should it not be a properly signed certificate. Seems to me like it should be. I did, and went thru the knothole to subscribe, and that was fun. The new kmail apparently is messing with the hash numbers they use to confirm a subscription, and my reply to the confirmation message bounced exactly as it did for trying to join the nut-users list. The only way I could confirm was to use the web page link. That was about 14 hours ago, and I have rx'd exactly zero messages after the confirmation was rx'd. For all the pulse problems extant, that doesn't feel right. I also removed those 4 pieces that I had installed, and rebooted yet another time, and now I can listen to the news sites again. With the enablers installed, I get white noise for the audio with a news video I'm watching, and its about 120 db louder than the kde sound effects which were the only thing working, and I had to crank the PA gain to +480% to get that to work. As a config tool, pavucontrol sucks. Yes, it shows all the HDA (or whatever that acronym is) stuff that is on this mobo (or on this ATI based HD2400-Pro (rv610) video card but not bonded out for use, I wasn't able to determine which from what it was telling me), but while you can reset the defaults to use the audigy 2, you cannot disable or remove an unwanted choice. And I have NDI where it (pa) was getting the speaker shredding white noise, which FWIW, was only present when story was playing. And no one here seems to have run into this before as I didn't get anything that might have been a clue as to what to do next from this list in about 24 or so hours. No fault of yours, apparently I have the most unique ASUS motherboard ever made, an M2N-SLI Deluxe. So obviously what is nuke able, has been nuked, I've rebooted, and everything is back to working. What I take home from this experiment is that you want us to use it cuz it sounds interesting to you, but that no one other than Lennert has a clue how it works. And there may be job assignment walls around that preclude his using any paid time to support users with problem hardware. IMO, if this is to be the default for fedora, then time should be allowed for him to support those installs which are problematic. -- Cheers, Gene "There are four boxes to be used in defense of liberty: soap, ballot, jury, and ammo. Please use in that order." -Ed Howdershelt (Author) The NRA is offering FREE Associate memberships to anyone who wants them. <https://www.nrahq.org/nrabonus/accept-membership.asp> Christ was born in 4 B.C. -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@xxxxxxxxxx To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines