On Friday 29 May 2009, Kevin Kofler wrote: >Gene Heskett wrote: >> And the last time I looked, a bit over a month ago, there was no hint of >> what to do when it chooses its default output channel wrong, and >> effectively sends it all to /dev/null. > >You pick the correct default in pavucontrol. > > Kevin Kofler And that IIRC, was one of the things in my kmenu that never ran, ever. And while this box isn't exactly a fresh install of F10 now, that was also true for the fresh install back in February after the main drive crapped out, as it was last fall when I first installed F10. I didn't even get a 30 second dancing cursor, it simply did not run. And since kde4, we no longer have the name of the executable listed in the menu's, there seems to be no way to try such stuff from a cli to see what error falls out when it doesn't run. Having nuked pulse as much as I can, it all works now (for me). What do I have to re-install to make these utils such as what you name above, actually work? According to rpm -qa I still have: pulseaudio-libs-0.9.14-3.fc10.i386 xmms-pulse-0.9.4-6.fc10.i386 pulseaudio-utils-0.9.14-3.fc10.i386 wine-pulseaudio-1.1.15-1.fc10.i386 pulseaudio-libs-zeroconf-0.9.14-3.fc10.i386 pulseaudio-core-libs-0.9.14-3.fc10.i386 xine-lib-pulseaudio-1.1.16.3-2.fc10.i386 pulseaudio-libs-glib2-0.9.14-3.fc10.i386 installed. Right now, it (pavucontrol) does run from the cli, but reports connection refused (of course, no 'server' is running), and the gui is locked up so I can't see any output choices and it all exits when I close the error message box. pavucontrol? That sounds like it is a control for vu meters of some kind, and with zero docs, who would have known that it is supposedly the configuration tool? If there is to be no docs, then how about _sensible_ names? pa'vu'control indeed. :( Sheesh. As I have stated before, [root@coyote log]# man pulseaudio No manual entry for pulseaudio What is so damned secret about this that it has to be hidden behind all the smoke and mirrors & gobbledygook doublespeak such that 2 years+ after it is first included in a fedora snapshot, and its just now that I'm finding out that pavucontrol is actually the configuration tool? This 'junk' needs some man pages. Without the tools to make it work being available for any and all to use, it is of no more use to me than the tits on a boar hog. But I don't expect there ever to be any, its fedora, right? And don't tell me there isn't room on the dvd. There is a good 500 megs left before the iso is bigger than a single layer dvd, and I _can_ burn duals here according to the propaganda about my drive. -- Cheers, Gene "There are four boxes to be used in defense of liberty: soap, ballot, jury, and ammo. Please use in that order." -Ed Howdershelt (Author) The NRA is offering FREE Associate memberships to anyone who wants them. <https://www.nrahq.org/nrabonus/accept-membership.asp> A foolish consistency is the hobgoblin of little minds. -- Ralph Waldo Emerson -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@xxxxxxxxxx To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
