On Sunday 24 May 2009, Kevin Kofler wrote: >Gene Heskett wrote: >> Ah Contraire, fixed me right up, its all working now. That which rpm could >> remove without wiping the drive & starting over was removed. Now it Just >> Works(TM). > >Try playing more than one sound at the time without PulseAudio, the second >app will report a "sound device busy" error instead of getting the sound >properly mixed (unless you're one of those lucky people with hardware >mixing). Of course I am Kevin, its an audigy2, SBO400 chipset, not one of those $7 cards or $2 chipsets built into the motherboard. My biggest problem is in convincing the system that it should ignore all the other crap (there is some sort of an HDA audio on my video card that is not even bonded out but it finds it nevertheless, and the crippled ac97 stuff that you cannot seem to disable on the motherboard itself) and actually use the Audigy2 for everything except maybe skype. Once I have done that, then it all Just Works(TM). I probably COULD use pulse, if it had a configuration utility that worked, but if I allow it to run, then I believe it is redirecting the audio to one of the other 2 audio systems. IF pulse would take directions from my modprobe.conf, maybe it might work. But it thinks it knows best, like a child that has never been taught the meaning of the word no. If we had the tools to configure it (AFAIAC we have exactly zero tools for that), you would cut the traffic about pulse on this list by at least 95% cuz folks could actually make it work. Unforch, every one of those tools someone has recommended I try, has absolutely NO knowledge of any audio that may be available on the system but its own choice, and it will not even tell you what its choice is. It just is. I am reminded of that saying about the word assume. For those with more than one channel of audio available, pulse is broken by design, and after what, 2 years now, it is patently apparent to me that it will never be fixed to the point where it will ever be usable for that 10% of the users who want better audio. Go ahead, make a liar out of me with F11 when it is out, but I have the price of a 12 pack of suds that nothing will have been done to make it useable for those like me with more than 1 audio system. Here in WV, Michelob Ultra is about 11$ a 12 pack, so that is the bet I offer. Bet? -- Cheers, Gene "There are four boxes to be used in defense of liberty: soap, ballot, jury, and ammo. Please use in that order." -Ed Howdershelt (Author) The NRA is offering FREE Associate memberships to anyone who wants them. <https://www.nrahq.org/nrabonus/accept-membership.asp> All your people must learn before you can reach for the stars. -- Kirk, "The Gamesters of Triskelion", stardate 3259.2 -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@xxxxxxxxxx To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines