hi, Not been well lately, and I have not done much clever thinking. And so, - was the idea without any purpose at all ? I know that I have messed up a lot, and it took me a long time to grasp some of of the "new" ideas. And I am not sure I got it right either. But all the time I have had examples of "non-recognized-state-changes", and to attach strace to Xorg, did seem to coincide with some of the trouble. There may part of programs still running as a process, and it has to be killed before you try to start up a program again. Comments ? //ARNE - it is getting better, but there are room for improvement ;) -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@xxxxxxxxxx To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines