On Saturday 09 May 2009, Craig White wrote: >On Sat, 2009-05-09 at 11:28 -0400, Gene Heskett wrote: >> On Saturday 09 May 2009, GMS S wrote: >> >What is the best and easy way to backup whole fedora 10? >> >> Since you picked two, best, easy, and cheap (as in free) being a given, >> amanda installed from the tarball, NOT the rpms. Easy might be relative >> though as there is some setup and configuration to do before you assign it >> all to the users crontab and forget it. Trouble? Subscribe to >> amanda-users@xxxxxxxxxxx This is industrial grade stuff, used by some >> pretty big names. > >---- >I thoroughly disagree with this. The reason you use a package management >system is to have readily packaged software so that you don't have to >deal with all of the various issues created by installing from tarballs. > >Amanda is packaged by Fedora and if Gene feels that the packages are >inadequate, he should be offering alternative packages for inclusion. > >Amanda is a PITA to set up and get running but so is Bacula, which is >what I use these days. Any feature comprehensive backup program is a >PITA to set up. But there is no reason not to use rpm packaging for >either amanda or bacula. > >Craig Sorry Craig, now you are walking on ground I am very familiar with, but fedora's rpm is/was incapable of handling the nuances of using only enough access rights to get the job done, a vital part of the amanda security model. When an rpm package can build a complete user from scratch, and preserve the file rights exactly as they are when built from a tarball, then a 'pre-canned' version of amanda rpm's that works as well as the tarball might be possible. But lets ask the rpm experts, which I am not that well versed in. I don't believe it is with the current rpm packager but I'm open to correction since I haven't looked at the F10 packages other than to see they are old (to me that is, 2.6.0p2 is ancient). I'm currently running the May 5th date snapshot of amanda-2.6.2alpha because I play the coal miners canary for amanda and have for years. It works as expected, very well. -- Cheers, Gene "There are four boxes to be used in defense of liberty: soap, ballot, jury, and ammo. Please use in that order." -Ed Howdershelt (Author) Where there's a will, there's an Inheritance Tax. -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@xxxxxxxxxx To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines