Craig responded: boot F10 in runlevel 3 login as root yum update mkinitrd yum update yum install system-config-display system-config-display --reconfig If you do all that, can run 'startx' and be happy, I suppose you are good. Craig -------------------------------- jbyers: all went ok except last, system-config-display --reconfig which fails with Couldn't start X server on card 0 Error, failed to start X server. tried it twice once still using old kernel once using new kernel same result on both the stanza does work now without scsimodescan ie here is the new stanza, with new kernel, as modified by me to remove scsimodscan title Fedora (2.6.27.21-170.2.56.fc10.i686) noscsimodescn root (hd0,0) kernel /boot/vmlinuz-2.6.27.21-170.2.56.fc10.i686 ro root=UUID=449a78aa- d4d5-4e91-bf9c-5833d7218c8f 3 initrd /boot/initrd-2.6.27.21-170.2.56.fc10.i686.img this again allows booting to level 3 so Craig's update method has cured that problem. I also did useradd byers passwd byers and yum install emacs so at least i have a text editor i understand. Any ideas on the failing X server? Jack -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@xxxxxxxxxx To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines