On Tue, 2009-04-14 at 11:23 -0700, Hugh Caley wrote: > Proprietary is here; we need to deal with it. Yes, but because of its nature, we only have few ways to "deal with it". If we're lucky, it works. If we're not, it doesn't, and we probably can't do anything about it (we can only do workarounds if we know how to use it, even if we don't know how it works, and some things just don't give you all the information you need). If we're more unlucky, we can't do a damn thing about it. > Now, my own point is that a single Linux user has about zip power to > influence Adobe. I think Redhat and to a lesser extent the Mozilla > organization has a lot more. There should be direct talks between > these commercial operations about problems like these, and if there > have been, it'd be nice to know. I wouldn't be surprised if Redhat, et al, have tried to deal with closed source companies. I also wouldn't be surprised if they don't have a great deal of luck, either. > > Also, Firefox allows a single bad plugin to make the brower unusable. > Maybe it shouldn't do that? Seems to me there's a legitimate argument > to be made there. Yes, though you're chatting to the wrong people, now. That's a Firefox issue, and you'd need to take it up with them. Have a look at Google's browser. Or, since it's not for Linux, have a look at what they say about their browser: Tabs run as independent processes. One can't crash the other. You can kill one without stuffing up the others, etc. -- [tim@localhost ~]$ uname -r 2.6.27.21-78.2.41.fc9.i686 Don't send private replies to my address, the mailbox is ignored. I read messages from the public lists. -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@xxxxxxxxxx To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines