Re: without a truly working "jigdo", re-spins are effectively useless

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On Wed, Mar 11, 2009 at 7:48 AM, Robert P. J. Day <rpjday@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
> On Wed, 11 Mar 2009, Bill Crawford wrote:
>
>> On Wednesday 11 March 2009 15:17:53 Robert P. J. Day wrote:
>> ...
>> > <slight rant on>
>> >
>> >   technically, i know that, but perhaps red hat should start
>> > protecting its brand a bit more aggressively.  go to fedoraunity.org:
>> >
>> >   http://fedoraunity.org/
>> >
>> > everything about that site screams "fedora".  the name.  the icon.
>> > the colour scheme.  the wording:
>> >
>> >   Welcome to the Fedora Unity Project
>> >   by The Fedora Unity Team — last modified Dec 13, 2007 07:09 PM
>> >
>> >   sorry, but i just don't have much patience with someone telling me
>> > that those two things are in no way connected.  if fedora wants to
>> > disavow any connection to fedora unity, it should demand that the
>> > unity site doesn't work so hard to look like fedora.  or at least have
>> > a *major* disclaimer at the very top making that clear.
>> >
>> > </rant>
>>
>> It might pay them to move the following item to the *top* of the
>> "re-spins" page ... and emphasise the word "unofficial" :o)
>>
>> Who produces the Re-Spins? Are they official Fedora Project
>> releases?  — by The Fedora Unity Team — last modified Mar 11, 2008
>> 08:29 AM
>>
>> The Fedora Unity Project, which is an unofficial community project,
>> produces the Re-Spins using packages and processes from the official
>> Fedora Project.
>
>  that would be a start, but it still wouldn't address the problem of
> the current jigdo files (all right, at least the F10 i386 DVD jigdo
> file) having at least two out-of-date package references.  and, no,
> it's not really acceptable to tell people who want to use it to
> manually edit the jigdo file to fix stuff like that.  that kind of
> defeats the purpose of advertising a user-friendly way to get
> upgrades.
>
>  and on that note, i'll shut up now.
>
> rday
> --

Robert, are you really done with your ranting? If not, go sit in the
corner and sulk some more.

Fedora Unity Project is a volunteer based work product. Like many such
groups they are understaffed. Be thankful that they are only a month
behind the latest release. You probably don't remember when their
respins were 3 or more months behind. Give the folks a break or even
better a hand.

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