Steve Searle: >> The max-lease-time does not contain dashes but some sort of double >> length dash. Gene Heskett: > Which is not available on USian keyboards. WTH? In this case it was a unicode minus sign (a mathematics symbol, not a hyphen dash). There are lots of characters that can be used that don't have a way of being directly typed, so the keyboard's not really an issue. They can be typed using key combinations, or the author could have used a program that replaces hyphens with dashes, under some circumstances: Generally it's done fairly sensibly (not when you just type a dash, but when you type something like a double-dash sequence). And this would normally be a *good* thing (using proper punctuation in documentation, in the right places). But it should NOT be done in programming examples (the wrong thing in the wrong place), where someone might directly use what you've typed in a program. I've often seen that sort of thing on webpages, where some authoring help has /helpfully/ replaced computer quotes with proper quotes at the wrong moment (in code sample snippets). It's a very good thing, normally, to write things correctly, and I strongly condemn the inappropriate use of computer quotes (and other poor substitute characters that look somewhat like what they're supposed to be, but simply are *not*) in prose as childishly lame typing. But, likewise, I'll condemn the use of wrong punctuation in code samples. I've seen this sort of thing, often enough, that I'll try and avoid cutting and pasting code samples from webpages as much as possible. Too many errors creep in. Someone will, no doubt, chime in and claim that crappy ASCII is good enough for everyone, we don't need no UTF, and "screw you" for wanting to do things right... But I'll argue the case in an analogy that will definitely ring true for you, Gene: You wouldn't put a 50 ohm BNC plug on a cable that connects to a 75 ohm socket. They look (almost) the same, but they're not. *You* know why it's wrong, and you know it'll cause you some sort of problems, even when others who know nothing about them don't understand. (Says Tim, who's camera once kept going off air on a live broadcast, at the worst of times, because some dingbat had done just that.) -- [tim@localhost ~]$ uname -r 2.6.27.12-78.2.8.fc9.i686 Don't send private replies to my address, the mailbox is ignored. I read messages from the public lists. -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@xxxxxxxxxx To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines