James Harrison wrote: >> gentoo system booting in under 20 seconds as compared to over 40 forFedora. > Perhaps its your laptop? My system ( 64 bit running 32 bit FC10 ) does it round about 20 (from the time grub takes over the system). Not the laptop. Why would Fedora take twice as long? Because there are more default services and a bigger OS in general. > >> I also like the control to what packages I install and what compile options I need. > Create your own RPM Fedora packages and compile them with your own settings. So, in other words, you want to do with Fedora what I do with Gentoo? That's why I use Gentoo. Why recreate the wheel with Fedora? > >> the slug that is FF on Fedora > Nothing appears wrong from here for me. > > Look, I'm not in this thread to defend gentoo over Fedora, or trash Fedora in any way. I think the rolling updates idea is a better option than an upgrade every 6-10 months and hope the upgrade works. In a lot of cases, the Fedora upgrade borks something. And before anyone reads me the 'bleeding edge' riot act, I know that already. The fact is, with the rolling updates of gentoo, my system is more stable than my fedora box right after an upgrade. I understand it a difference in philosophy, but I have yet to hear a really compelling reason for /not/ doing rolling updates. gentoo has been doing it for a long time and I've seen no major drawbacks of their methods of updating. With that said, there's nothing particularly wrong with Fedora's method either, I just like gentoo's better. Now, I'm done with this thread. -- Frustra laborant quotquot se calculationibus fatigant pro inventione quadraturae circuli Mark Haney Sr. Systems Administrator ERC Broadband (828) 350-2415 Call (866) ERC-7110 for after hours support -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@xxxxxxxxxx To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines