On Sun, Dec 21, 2008 at 8:05 PM, Mail Lists <lists@xxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote: > > I am a long time KDE user - in part for similar reasons to Linus - it > was configurable, flexible and let me set things up the way I wanted - > easily and simply. It had a very nice configuration manager. Gnome by > contrast was rigid, inflexible and to configure it - the bits it > allowed you to - you needed in part to learn about its registry which > warned you that the registry editor may corrupt things in bad ways - use > at your risk. Gnome was undergoing rapid changes - metacity went through > a lot before it was stable .. kde all the while was pretty stable. > > That was the way things used to be. Now KDE is harder to configure, > not as flexible and is difficult if not impossible to set up the way I > like things (task manager showing 1 icon per console or per firefox, the > workspace chooser in the middle, the ability to click and save a session > etc etc). > > So what I am seeing is some of the KDE users I know are slowly giving > up and moving back to gnome - its the default windowing > manager/environment on fedora and ubuntu and seems more mature and > stable than KDE 4 - and since as far as configurability goes, KDE has > little advantage to offer at this time. Perhaps the next version, or the > one after that will bring back the advantages. Maybe by 4.2 or 4.3 or > 4.4 or... 5.0 .. > > So seeking guidance from the path others are choosing: > > (1) Are the fedora KDE users moving back to gnome ? ... is KDE dead > or alive ? > > (2) Are there fedora Gnome users moving to KDE ? It is after all very > similar in its function now ... and does not use spatial mode by default > (;-). > > Be very interested in hearing what thoughts others are having. > > gene > I will give you my story how i switched from KDE to Gnome. When i started with linux (the first fedora core versions) i used KDE. At that time i found configuring KDE needlessly complex and configuring Gnome was easier but way more limited. Nevertheless i kept using KDE because it was simply the best for me at that time. And that's probably because i was fresh from windows and KDE looks the most like windows when your just switching and then you tend to go with the environment that your already familiar with. However around fedora 5 something changed in fedora that made me use gnome. Don't know what it was. So i started swapping all the time between KDE and Gnome. then the big differences started to come. compositing became possible and gnome in combination with my hardware was just working. kde wasn't. that's when i switched (with regret) to gnome. It doesn't mean that i liked gnome better but it was simply the best at hand at that time. Not long after that (or perhaps even before that) firefox became the unofficial standard in linux distributions and i was (and still am) a firefox fan and wanted to use it. Firefox looks ugly in KDE but looks nice in Gnome so that was another reason for me to stick with gnome. Now at the present day i see things getting reversed. First gnome was actively developed and kde was sticking at it's 3.x.x version with not much noticeable changes that where worth the upgrade (not noticeable for me) so gnome was just getting better. Now i see gnome lacking behind kde because they come with new features (noticeable ones!) all the time and there KDE 4.2 is really looking good. I tried both kde 4.0 and 4.1 but they where way to unstable to be used for my usage. KDE 4.2 is looking way better from what i've seen but it still seems to be way to buggy for me to use. There is one huge issue in KDE. that's also it's biggest feature: QT. QT seems to have issues with video cards making vesa even faster then hardware accelerated. that is the case on both my notebook (intel gpu) and my desktop (nvidia gpu) and weighs heavy in making KDE 4.2 unusable for me. Gnome on the other hand works fine and smooth. There was a long time for me that i simply couldn't switch to KDE because the available versions just didn't work out for me how i wanted it. Now with KDE 4.2 close to getting out there finally is a DE where i could switch to. Back to the one i came from but if that really is gonna happen is gonna depend on how stable it works (taskbar resizing finally works how it should be with the exception of the tray icons) And about desktop environments for me in general. I like KDE the most but there is NO desktop environment that provides what i want and need. Perhaps it's gonna be made by someone someday. perhaps KDE is gonna be that DE with version 4.5 or 5.0 or 10.0 ;) Just my story how i switched to gnome. -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@xxxxxxxxxx To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
