Re: No gdb?

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On Fri, 2008-12-12 at 17:52 +0000, dexter wrote:
> 2008/12/12 Linuxguy123 <linuxguy123@xxxxxxxxx>:
> > On Fri, 2008-12-12 at 12:31 -0500, Chris Snook wrote:
> >> Anne Wilson wrote:
> >> > I've just been told
> >> >
> >> > A Fatal Error Occurred
> >> > The application KDE Daemon (kded4) crashed and caused the signal 11 (SIGSEGV).
> >> >
> >> > It went on to say that it couldn't create a bug report, as gdb is not
> >> > installed.  Shouldn't that be installed by default?
> >> >
> >> > Anne
> >> >
> >>
> >> Feel free to file a bug to get gdb added to the KDE package group, enabled by
> >> default, but please don't make it a dependency.  Debuggers, especially ones that
> >> automatically attach to apps the user can cause to crash, are considered a
> >> security risk in certain environments.
> >
> >
> > I agree with Anne on this.  Especially on the testing versions.
> >
> > Which does Fedora get more complaints about ?  Software stability or
> > software security ?   Stability by FAR.  gdb should be installed by
> > default, especially on testing releases.
> 
> gdb without *debuginfo* is also useless to a bug report and they get
> big pretty quick so I say no gdb for normal folk.

How big is big ?  Hard drives are cheap these days, right ?  

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