On Sunday 23 November 2008, Paul W. Frields wrote: >On Sun, Nov 23, 2008 at 01:33:47PM -0500, Gene Heskett wrote: >> I also note that during the install, I told it to do the network manually >> at a fixed address because I do everything here behind an x86 install of >> dd-wrt, with host files for local dns, with gateway and resolv.conf >> pointed at the dd-wrt box. On the reboot, it ignored all that, used dhcp >> and was assigned a network address by dd-wrt that made it impossible to >> find until I ran ifconfig to get its address. Is that an artifact of NM? > >If you want to use static networking, simply turn off NetworkManager >off by default using 'chkconfig'. However, NetworkManager 0.7 seems >to have no problem with static networking here. I am using it on >several Fedora 9 boxes at my house without a problem. Good. I'll give it another shot. >> If so, can I remove nm from FU9 without its deps taking 2/3rds of the >> system with it? > >There's no reason to remove it; that's what 'chkconfig' is for. > >> Plain old network has always worked how I want it to work here, and even >> with my lappy on the road, I have always had to get a radio from the motel >> and use the network & vim the configs to set it up as opposed to nm. nm >> has never been able to actually turn the radio on once its been turned >> off, even after I've installed ndiswrapper, the drivers stolen from the >> residual ntfs filesystem I left when I installed f8 on the lappy, and had >> it working flawlessly here to an atheros card in the dd-wrt machine. And >> of course, when I get back home with the lappy, then it doesn't work here >> anymore, and nm has left no trace of my old configs so I have to re-invent >> that wheel again. TBT, its a hell of a lot easier to plug in a cat5 and >> forget the radio, so that is what I've been doing for the last 11 months. >> At the F8 level, nm is still a solution in search of a problem IMO. Yeah, >> I know, the Old Fart Syndrome at work, but I don't really feel that I >> should be fixing something that wasn't broken in the first place. Sigh... > >NetworkManager has been respecting system-wide configurations for some >time now.... You've got about four or five issues combined in this >post that make it kind of difficult to advise well. But why did it ignore about 10 minutes work typing all that in during the install, and use dhcp instead? >I've been using NetworkManager successfully for a couple of years now >in a number of different laptops so I know it's not fundamentally >broken. You might want to try removing your user configurations >(located in ~/.gconf/system/networking/connections, backing them up >first!), setting your system's /etc/sysconfig/network-scripts/ifcfg-* >files to include 'NM_CONTROLLED=yes', and restart NM. Ok, I'll go try that right now. There is no such system tree in ~/.gconf for root. But which file in /etc/sysconfig is the real one?, F8 had it linked at least 3 ways with hard links, and there seemed to be no way to actually make an edit 'stick'. No errors on the save, but when the files were re-opened, the edits you just made weren't there. I went around that loop at least 5 times before asking on the list. And didn't get an answer then either other than it was hard-linked. I have since re-installed on the lappy and haven't made any effort to make the wireless work. It did work in xp the last time I had that booted. It would be a plus if it did, that, after all, is what portables are for. >I have no idea if using ndiswrapper complicates things, but it >certainly doesn't make them easier. I use wireless NICs that I know >are supportable by the Linux kernel drivers for best results. My lappy has a broadcom 4318 & the last I knew b43 couldn't even see it. >HTH. I'll go back down and see if I can fin the stuff in sysconfig, later. Thanks Paul. -- Cheers, Gene "There are four boxes to be used in defense of liberty: soap, ballot, jury, and ammo. Please use in that order." -Ed Howdershelt (Author) "Life is like a buffet; it's not good but there's plenty of it." -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@xxxxxxxxxx To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
