On Sat, Jun 7, 2008 at 10:11 PM, Russell Strong <russell@xxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote: > Hi, > > I've just installed Fedora 9 on my laptop, and unfortunately a few things > are getting worse in Fedora. > > Network management has always been awkward on Fedora and with Fedora 9 it's > getting much worse. > > 1. I have always edited the config files directly to get things working. > And still have to ( it's just a straight forward wireless connection ). > 2. NetworkManager is now the default on install, BUT... > 2.1 NetworkManager does not give you a wireless connection when no user is > logged in. > 2.1.1 How am I going to run any network service, NTP, NFS, httpd, > etc..... without a network? > 2.1.2 How am I going to remotely administer my machines? > 2.2 NetworkManager does not give you the ability to configure system wide > networking services or policy. > 2.3 NetworkManager does not have any decent documentation. > 3. Try using WPA and DHCP at the same time. It's never worked in this or > any previous Fedora. Yes, NM will do it, but that's no good because of the > previously stated problems. the network service won't do it because it > tries to run DHCP immediately after bringing up the interfaces...It SHOULD > wait until wpa_supplicant has run and the interface is available for traffic > before kicking off DHCP... > > GDM was functional, well behaved and stable in Fedora 8. I used it to log > into other F8 machines locked away in difficult to get at racks. Fedora 9 > has effectively removed that ability by shipping a GDM with gdmsetup. How > many users depend on that functionality? I did, and won't be able to > upgrade to F9 for any other machines. > > A suggestion... > > Use the fedora website/wiki to collect information about use cases. Find > out what people depend on. Use that to provide a guarantee that > functionality and usefulness won't go backwards. If it was ever setup, I'd > tell you everything I do with my machines. > > Russell > > -- > fedora-list mailing list > fedora-list@xxxxxxxxxx > To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list > Try checking out upstream GDM bug: http://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=553250 and also gdm mailing list: http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/gdm-list Cheers, Valent. -- http://kernelreloaded.blog385.com/ linux, blog, anime, spirituality, windsurf, wireless registered as user #367004 with the Linux Counter, http://counter.li.org. ICQ: 2125241, Skype: valent.turkovic -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@xxxxxxxxxx To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines