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Today's Topics:
1. Re: Automount of CD-ROMs no longer works (Mike McCarty)
2. Re: Estimating System wattage (Rich Emberson)
3. Re: Infrastructure status, 2008-08-19 UTC 0200 (Arthur Pemberton)
4. Re: network vs NetworkManger services ?? (Tim)
5. Re: Infrastructure status, 2008-08-19 UTC 0200 (Tom Horsley)
6. Re: Infrastructure status, 2008-08-19 UTC 0200 (Dave Burns)
7. Re: Blog Client (Rahul Sundaram)
8. Re: Automount of CD-ROMs no longer works (Tim)
9. Re: Blog Client (Srikanth Konjarla)
10. Re: Blog Client (Rahul Sundaram)
11. Re: Signing for fedora-announce with fedora-list (was
Infrastructure status, 2008-08-16 UTC 1530) (Jim Cornette)
12. Re: Signing for fedora-announce with fedora-list (was
Infrastructure status, 2008-08-16 UTC 1530) (Ed Greshko)
13. Re: Automount of CD-ROMs no longer works (Mike McCarty)
14. Re: where are the updates? (Renich Bon Ciric)
15. Re: How to search the Fedora List (Renich Bon Ciric)
16. Re: Slightly [OT] Network Monitoring/Alerting tools (Adam Hough)
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Message: 1
Date: Thu, 21 Aug 2008 19:56:24 -0500
From: Mike McCarty <Mike.McCarty@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Subject: Re: Automount of CD-ROMs no longer works
To: For users of Fedora <fedora-list@xxxxxxxxxx>
Message-ID: <48AE0EB8.5070808@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
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Mikkel L. Ellertson wrote:
You may want to run ls -l /dev/cdrom to see where it points to. If
this was the only device on the secondary IDE controller, and you
are not using cable select, then it is possible that the old drive
was jumpered as a slave drive, and the new on is jumpered as either
master or cable select. That would mess up the cdrom symlink.
Ok, I put both of them on the cable, jumpered as CS, with the CD
on the Master, and the DVD on the slave location. I rebooted, and
got an entry in my fstab...
/dev/cdrom /mnt/cdrom udf,iso9660 noauto,owner,kudzu,ro 0 0
/dev/cdrom1 /mnt/cdrom1 udf,iso9660 noauto,owner,kudzu,ro 0 0
[spaces edited]
Also,
$ ls -l /dev/cd*
lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 8 Aug 21 19:26 /dev/cdrom -> /dev/hdc
lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 8 Aug 21 19:44 /dev/cdrom1 -> /dev/hdd
brw-rw---- 1 root disk 15, 0 Feb 23 2004 /dev/cdu31a
brw-rw---- 1 root disk 24, 0 Feb 23 2004 /dev/cdu535
lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 8 Aug 21 19:44 /dev/cdwriter -> /dev/hdd
The CD drive works as expected. The DVD does not. When I put a
written CD into the CD drive, it mounts, and shows the label.
When I put the same disc into the DVD drive, it brings up the
CD Creator box, like it was blank. Closing that, and doing a mount
causes the disc to mount and be usable, but the label is not
noticed, it mounts just as cdrom1.
Mike
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Message: 2
Date: Thu, 21 Aug 2008 18:01:18 -0700
From: "Rich Emberson" <emberson.rich@xxxxxxxxx>
Subject: Re: Estimating System wattage
To: fedora-list@xxxxxxxxxx
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Knute Johnson wrote:
Rich Emberson wrote:
So, I recently built a new system. I figured out what
motherboard I wanted, what cpu, how much memory and
disk and then I when and used a couple of the online
system wattage calculators and got somewhere between
500 to 650 watts. I could not get (find) a PSU
with the right connectors for the motherboard so
I ended up getting Silverstone Zeus 750 watt supply
(yea, overkill). I then got a UPS from a local store.
They had a sale and a higher end UPS turned out to
be cheaper than a 600 watt unit, so I got a
APC UPS BX1500LCD (865 watt) (again, overkill but nice).
What is interesting about this UPS is that it can
show the current wattage used by your system on its
LED (along with other stuff).
Now, my strategy for constructing the new system was to pick
a motherboard that was build for high-end power and then
pick cool components; I am a developer, not a game player
and this system will house MythTV and Asterisk someday,
well as serve as a development box.
So, what I ended up with was:
ASUS P5Q Deluxe
Intel quad core QX9550
95 watts max for $550
(the QX9650 is 130 watts at $1000)
8GB CORSAIR (DOMINATOR) TWIN2X4096-8500C5DF
Asus EN7300GT silent graphics board
idle: 8.7 Watts
max: 16.1 Watts
2 WD VelociRaptor Model: WD3000GLFS 300
Read/Write 6.08 Watts
Idle 4.53 Watts
Standby 0.42 Watts
Sleep 0.42 Watts
2 WD Caviar GP Model: WD10EACS 1 TB
Read/Write 7.50 Watts
Idle 4.0 Watts
Standby 0.97 Watts
Sleep 0.97 Watts
ASUS V60 cpu cooler (overkill)
SAMSUNG SH-S203N DVD/CD RW
Logitech SBF-90 Black 3 Buttons 1 x Wheel
Logitech 967738-0403 Black 104 Normal Keys
SST-ST75ZF Zeus power supply (overkill)
APC UPS BX1500LCD (overkill, but very nice)
Lian Li PC-A71 Black (overkill, but very, very nice)
BIOS 0803
Fedora 9 64
Now, with no applications running, idle, according to the UPS
the system uses 70 watts.
The highest wattage I can get it to use running bunches of
parallel compiles is about 125 watts.
My question is: whats with the online wattage estimators?
Are they all implemented by folks selling power supplies
who want to sell users bigger ones than are needed?
In terms of power needs, I ended up way over-specing $$ the system.
Basically, I ended up with a system that
uses as much power as a 120 watt light bulb.
Richard
Watts are simple, you just add them up. When I add up yours, I get
114.5 max load for the items you listed. I would guess then that the
125 watts you are seeing is probably pretty close. The power supply you
bought is probably bigger than you need but the UPS, if you want to run
on the battery more than a couple of minutes, is probably undersized.
Turns out another part of the UPS' LED output is an estimation of how long
it can support the current system at current load. For my system this time
varies from 60 to 70 minutues.
If I were going to build a computer, I would probably size my power
supply for twice the expected load plus a little to account for things I
don't think of. Now it is possible to put a lot of load on USB ports
with external drives or other equipment so you would want to allow some
more for that.
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Message: 3
Date: Thu, 21 Aug 2008 20:01:16 -0500
From: "Arthur Pemberton" <pemboa@xxxxxxxxx>
Subject: Re: Infrastructure status, 2008-08-19 UTC 0200
To: "For users of Fedora" <fedora-list@xxxxxxxxxx>
Message-ID:
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On Thu, Aug 21, 2008 at 6:45 PM, Jim Cornette <fc-cornette@xxxxxxxxxx>
wrote:
Michael Schwendt wrote:
On Wed, 20 Aug 2008 23:35:20 -0400, Jim Cornette wrote:
I myself am not on the announce list
Why not?
Because I never thought the list was informative.
So you made your own decision. That seems to be the business of no one
else. You choose your distro, you choose your software, you choose
your mailing list.
--
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( www.pembo13.com )
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Message: 4
Date: Fri, 22 Aug 2008 10:35:39 +0930
From: Tim <ignored_mailbox@xxxxxxxxxxxx>
Subject: Re: network vs NetworkManger services ??
To: tim@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx, For users of Fedora
<fedora-list@xxxxxxxxxx>
Message-ID: <1219367139.16775.2.camel@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
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On Thu, 2008-08-21 at 18:31 +0200, Timothy Murphy wrote:
it's rather annoying to be told something works automatically
if in fact it doesn't work for you.
It doesn't leave much room for advice on what to do about it.
The answer's rather obvious: If it doesn't work for you, then use
something *else* that's not automatic. It's *always* been the case that
automatic /somethings/ aren't suitable for all situations (cars with
automatic transmissions have problems in some conditions, auto-focus
lenses make mistakes under many conditions, etc.).
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read messages from the public lists.
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Message: 5
Date: Thu, 21 Aug 2008 21:08:12 -0400
From: Tom Horsley <tom.horsley@xxxxxxx>
Subject: Re: Infrastructure status, 2008-08-19 UTC 0200
To: For users of Fedora <fedora-list@xxxxxxxxxx>
Message-ID: <20080821210812.3a156f40@zooty>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII
On Fri, 22 Aug 2008 09:28:36 +0900
Joel Rees <joel.rees@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
> Because I never thought the list was informative.
This is a perception that needs correcting.
Actually, when this all started, I took a look at the
announce list archives, and came to the definitive conclusion
that in fact, it really isn't an informative list.
I mean, even the announcement that started this whole
mess can't be called informative :-).
What we really need is the fedora-disaster list that
comes with a guarantee that no message not related to imminent
peril to all fedora users is ever posted to the list.
I might consider subscribing to that, but really I still
think messages of that nature should be cross posted
to all fedora mailing lists.
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Message: 6
Date: Thu, 21 Aug 2008 15:12:11 -1000
From: "Dave Burns" <tburns@xxxxxxxxxx>
Subject: Re: Infrastructure status, 2008-08-19 UTC 0200
To: "For users of Fedora" <fedora-list@xxxxxxxxxx>
Message-ID:
<943be0b10808211812v6fb9d87by26d0da4865f477f9@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1
Know what I wish? That posts with the subject "Re: Infrastructure
status" actually discussed infrastructure status, and that discussions
of 'how to improve dissemination of info about infrastructure status'
had a different subject. Though the one I just suggested kinda blows.
And here I am contributing to the deliquency.
Dave
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Message: 7
Date: Fri, 22 Aug 2008 07:00:54 +0530
From: Rahul Sundaram <sundaram@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Subject: Re: Blog Client
To: For users of Fedora <fedora-list@xxxxxxxxxx>
Message-ID: <48AE16CE.4010000@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed
Srikanth Konjarla wrote:
What is the popular tool to use as a weblog client (for wordpress
primarily)?
Drivel
# yum info drivel
Loaded plugins: refresh-packagekit
Available Packages
Name : drivel
Arch : i386
Version : 2.1.1
Release : 0.5.20071130svn.fc9
Size : 432 k
Repo : fedora
Summary : A journal or "blog" client
URL : http://www.dropline.net/drivel
License : GPLv2+
Description: Drivel is an advanced journal client for the GNOME desktop.
It had been designed with usability in mind, and presents an elegant
user interface.
Rahul
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Message: 8
Date: Fri, 22 Aug 2008 11:05:47 +0930
From: Tim <ignored_mailbox@xxxxxxxxxxxx>
Subject: Re: Automount of CD-ROMs no longer works
To: For users of Fedora <fedora-list@xxxxxxxxxx>
Message-ID: <1219368947.16775.8.camel@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Content-Type: text/plain
On Thu, 2008-08-21 at 18:18 -0500, Mike McCarty wrote:
I replaced my CD-ROM writer with a DVD-ROM writer, and now
automounting of either CD-ROMs or DVD-ROMs no longer takes place.
Instead, the CD-Creator gets started up, as it does for a blank
writable CD-ROM.
Bad drive? Does it work anywhere else?
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Message: 9
Date: Thu, 21 Aug 2008 18:36:54 -0700
From: Srikanth Konjarla <srikanth.konjarla@xxxxxxxxx>
Subject: Re: Blog Client
To: For users of Fedora <fedora-list@xxxxxxxxxx>
Message-ID: <48AE1836.8060607@xxxxxxxxx>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed
I have installed it. But, can't find API support for wordpress. Is it
supported?
Thanks
Rahul Sundaram wrote:
Srikanth Konjarla wrote:
What is the popular tool to use as a weblog client (for wordpress
primarily)?
Drivel
# yum info drivel
Loaded plugins: refresh-packagekit
Available Packages
Name : drivel
Arch : i386
Version : 2.1.1
Release : 0.5.20071130svn.fc9
Size : 432 k
Repo : fedora
Summary : A journal or "blog" client
URL : http://www.dropline.net/drivel
License : GPLv2+
Description: Drivel is an advanced journal client for the GNOME desktop.
It had been designed with usability in mind, and presents an elegant
user interface.
Rahul
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Message: 10
Date: Fri, 22 Aug 2008 07:17:53 +0530
From: Rahul Sundaram <sundaram@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Subject: Re: Blog Client
To: For users of Fedora <fedora-list@xxxxxxxxxx>
Message-ID: <48AE1AC9.20202@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed
Srikanth Konjarla wrote:
I have installed it. But, can't find API support for wordpress. Is it
supported?
Yep. Check this article for details:
http://www.linux.com/feature/58265
Rahul
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Message: 11
Date: Thu, 21 Aug 2008 21:49:15 -0400
From: Jim Cornette <fc-cornette@xxxxxxxxxx>
Subject: Re: Signing for fedora-announce with fedora-list (was
Infrastructure status, 2008-08-16 UTC 1530)
To: For users of Fedora <fedora-list@xxxxxxxxxx>
Message-ID: <48AE1B1B.5040700@xxxxxxxxxx>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed
Arthur Pemberton wrote:
Why can't people just read http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate
and come to a decision on what lists they want to be on? What's with
all the hand holding?
Because the selection of lists is long and the primary lists people
frequent are adequate to add an additional announcement from time to
time on important information.
There is no hand holding needed. Send it to the major lists also for
important information.
Live with it! Not everyone would subscribe to a low traffic and
generically named list called Announce.
I did sign up for the list a few minutes back. Still, throw important
information toward the higher subscribed lists.
Jim
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Message: 12
Date: Fri, 22 Aug 2008 10:22:27 +0800
From: Ed Greshko <Ed.Greshko@xxxxxxxxxxx>
Subject: Re: Signing for fedora-announce with fedora-list (was
Infrastructure status, 2008-08-16 UTC 1530)
To: For users of Fedora <fedora-list@xxxxxxxxxx>
Message-ID: <48AE22E3.6030508@xxxxxxxxxxx>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed
Jim Cornette wrote:
I did sign up for the list a few minutes back. Still, throw important
information toward the higher subscribed lists.
Come to think of it... There is no reason to subscribe to the "announce"
list. When something of great importance happens someone not in the know
will ask "what is going on" and someone on the "announce" list will repost
it here. :-)
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Message: 13
Date: Thu, 21 Aug 2008 21:24:15 -0500
From: Mike McCarty <Mike.McCarty@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Subject: Re: Automount of CD-ROMs no longer works
To: For users of Fedora <fedora-list@xxxxxxxxxx>
Message-ID: <48AE234F.9000203@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed
Tim wrote:
On Thu, 2008-08-21 at 18:18 -0500, Mike McCarty wrote:
I replaced my CD-ROM writer with a DVD-ROM writer, and now
automounting of either CD-ROMs or DVD-ROMs no longer takes place.
Instead, the CD-Creator gets started up, as it does for a blank
writable CD-ROM.
Bad drive? Does it work anywhere else?
Well, that's what I've been wondering. It mounts. It writes CDs
and DVDs. The CDs look ok on another machine. The DVDs I dunno.
I can mount them and look around using the same drive. I don't
have another machine with Linux to test with, however.
Mike
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You have found the bank of Larn.
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Message: 14
Date: Thu, 21 Aug 2008 21:11:37 -0500
From: Renich Bon Ciric <renich@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Subject: Re: where are the updates?
To: For users of Fedora <fedora-list@xxxxxxxxxx>
Message-ID: <1219371097.4662.4.camel@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8"
On Fri, 2008-08-22 at 04:59 +0530, Rahul Sundaram wrote:
The build system (or more specifically the hosts) has been disabled
for
about a week now and is not enabled yet although the web interface
has
been up for the last few days. I expect there will be a announcement
when it is ready again.
Rahul
Thanks, Rahul, good to know... Hope everything comes out fine.
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Message: 15
Date: Thu, 21 Aug 2008 21:17:18 -0500
From: Renich Bon Ciric <renich@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Subject: Re: How to search the Fedora List
To: For users of Fedora <fedora-list@xxxxxxxxxx>
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On Tue, 2008-08-19 at 09:41 -0500, Aaron Konstam wrote:
Searching the Fedora List came up in another thread. I thought this
important enough information to have a thread of its own. See web link
below:
http://marc.info/?l=fedora-list&r=1&w=2
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I'd use the fedora crawler
http://www.google.com/coop/cse?cx=011057779923588025604%3Aakrqpglozlu
Contributors are welcome.
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Message: 16
Date: Thu, 21 Aug 2008 22:01:00 -0500
From: "Adam Hough" <adam@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Subject: Re: Slightly [OT] Network Monitoring/Alerting tools
To: "For users of Fedora" <fedora-list@xxxxxxxxxx>
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On Thu, Aug 21, 2008 at 2:19 PM, Les Mikesell <lesmikesell@xxxxxxxxx>
wrote:
Mark Haney wrote:
Les Mikesell wrote:
Mark Haney wrote:
We do run OpenNMS as well, and it's a good tool, but I was interested
in
something /like/ nagios that does monitoring and alerting.
I'm not sure I understand the distinction or why you'd need both.
OpenNMS
is like nagios in some ways, different in some.
Well, the OpenNMS version we have is older, and it's sitting on a Debian
Sarge box that I want to blow away and install Fedora on. But that's
not
the reason for the question. We run nearly every monitoring tool out
there,
and my boss is extremely picky. He doesn't really like any of them
completely. They all have flaws in his mind so he wants to see what
else
might be available now, that either might not have been 4 years ago, or
has
greatly improved since then.
Well, OpenNMS has certainly improved recently and is still being
developed
rapidly. Don't draw any conclusions from seeing an older version. Also,
it
is very configurable. It does the obvious stuff out of the box but can
be
extended in an assortment of ways. Plus, if you can use one of the
packaged
versions it is much easier to install than a few years ago.
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My only beef with OpenNMS is that it is a polling type monitoring
system which is fine for say network gear but I would rather have a
client/server setup for servers that I want to monitor. OpenNMS from
what I can tell still does not give me the flexibility that I want or
need that I get from other system such as Hobbit (BB) or Nagios.
Though I will admit I had not know all that much about snmp other then
to make sure that it is turned off on systems I install to give bots
one less attack point if they make it past my iptable rules in some
manner.
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