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5. Re: fedora-list Digest, Vol 55, Issue 95 (winiston)
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Message: 1
Date: Thu, 11 Sep 2008 20:51:30 -0700 (PDT)
From: landon kelsey <landonmkelsey@xxxxxxxxx>
Subject: just in: a yum update of 113 meg with 44 items..completed!
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new problem:
OpenGL Screensavers not working...the others work however!
I love "molecule" as a screensaver and it is an OpenGL Screensaver
Printing still sends off a kernel diagnostic
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Date: Thu, 11 Sep 2008 22:59:41 -0500
From: "charles zeitler" <cfzeitler@xxxxxxxxx>
Subject: new items not showing up on desktop
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when i add items to "desktop", with konqueror or konsole,
they are not displayed on the screen.
is this a quirk with kde-4.1 or something else?
charles zeitler
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Date: Thu, 11 Sep 2008 21:01:56 -0700 (PDT)
From: landon kelsey <landonmkelsey@xxxxxxxxx>
Subject: Re: new items not showing up on desktop
To: "Community assistance, encouragement, and advice for using
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exactly how did you add the icons?
--- On Thu, 9/11/08, charles zeitler <cfzeitler@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
From: charles zeitler <cfzeitler@xxxxxxxxx>
Subject: new items not showing up on desktop
To: "fedora-list" <fedora-list@xxxxxxxxxx>
Date: Thursday, September 11, 2008, 10:59 PM
when i add items to "desktop", with konqueror or konsole,
they are not displayed on the screen.
is this a quirk with kde-4.1 or something else?
charles zeitler
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Date: Thu, 11 Sep 2008 23:12:31 -0500
From: "charles zeitler" <cfzeitler@xxxxxxxxx>
Subject: Re: new items not showing up on desktop
To: landonmkelsey@xxxxxxxxx, "Community assistance, encouragement, and
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On Thu, Sep 11, 2008 at 11:01 PM, landon kelsey
<landonmkelsey@xxxxxxxxx>wrote:
exactly how did you add the icons?
--- On *Thu, 9/11/08, charles zeitler <cfzeitler@xxxxxxxxx>* wrote:
From: charles zeitler <cfzeitler@xxxxxxxxx>
Subject: new items not showing up on desktop
To: "fedora-list" <fedora-list@xxxxxxxxxx>
Date: Thursday, September 11, 2008, 10:59 PM
when i add items to "desktop", with konqueror or konsole,
they are not displayed on the screen.
is this a quirk with kde-4.1 or something else?
charles zeitler
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umm... not icons, files & directories. and they _do_ show up in konqueror
& konsole, just not on the screen...
charles zeitler
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Message: 5
Date: Fri, 12 Sep 2008 10:03:49 +0530
From: winiston <winiston@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Subject: Re: fedora-list Digest, Vol 55, Issue 95
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Hello Kelvin Kofler,
I meant to say Fedora 9.
With Best Regards,
Winiston.P
Futura Automation Pvt Ltd.
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4. Re: Yum Error (Kevin Kofler)
5. Re: Yum Error (Kevin Kofler)
6. Re: Yum Error (Kevin Kofler)
7. Re: KDE 4.1: Unacceptable ! Was: whew ! That is more like
it ! Folderview and panel questions... (Kevin Kofler)
8. Re: Reasons behind defaulting atd and sendmail (Tim)
9. Re: KDE 4.1 Desktop, folder view, panel and widget tips and
tricks thread. (Kevin Kofler)
10. Re: KDE 4.1 Desktop, folder view, panel and widget tips and
tricks thread. (Kevin Kofler)
11. Re: KDE4.1- Plasma crashing (Kevin Kofler)
12. Re: blue screen of death after logout (Dr. Michael J. Chudobiak)
13. Re: SELinux kerneloops and dhclient issues (Daniel J Walsh)
14. Re: blue screen of death after logout (Patrick O'Callaghan)
15. Re: KDE 4.1: Unacceptable ! Was: whew ! That is more like
it ! Folderview and panel questions... (Patrick O'Callaghan)
16. Re: yum update yum;yum update yum-utils; WORKS (landon kelsey)
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Message: 1
Date: Thu, 11 Sep 2008 06:31:34 -0400
From: "Dan Bunyard" <danodemano@xxxxxxxxx>
Subject: Yum Errors
To: fedora-list@xxxxxxxxxx
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After running yum update a second time on my Fedora 9 system, I am now
receiving this when I try to run yum:
Traceback (most recent call last):
File "/usr/bin/yum", line 29, in <module>
yummain.user_main(sys.argv[1:], exit_code=True)
File "/usr/share/yum-cli/yummain.py", line 229, in user_main
errcode = main(args)
File "/usr/share/yum-cli/yummain.py", line 84, in main
base.getOptionsConfig(args)
File "/usr/share/yum-cli/cli.py", line 184, in getOptionsConfig
enabled_plugins=self.optparser._splitArg(opts.enableplugins))
File "/usr/lib/python2.5/site-packages/yum/__init__.py", line 189, in
_getConfig
startupconf.pluginconfpath,disabled_plugins,enabled_plugins)
File "/usr/lib/python2.5/site-packages/yum/__init__.py", line 355, in
doPluginSetup
plugin_types, confpath, disabled_plugins, enabled_plugins)
File "/usr/lib/python2.5/site-packages/yum/plugins.py", line 152, in
__init__
self._importplugins(types)
File "/usr/lib/python2.5/site-packages/yum/plugins.py", line 195, in
_importplugins
self._loadplugin(modulefile, types)
File "/usr/lib/python2.5/site-packages/yum/plugins.py", line 251, in
_loadplugin
module = imp.load_module(modname, fp, pathname, description)
File "/usr/lib/yum-plugins/filter-data.py", line 111
('committers', 'committer')]
^
SyntaxError: invalid syntax
Any help or suggestions would be appreciated. Thanks!!
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Date: Thu, 11 Sep 2008 16:10:36 +0530
From: "Steve Repo" <scmuser@xxxxxxxxx>
Subject: Re: no new kernels?
To: "Community assistance, encouragement, and advice for using
Fedora." <fedora-list@xxxxxxxxxx>
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On Thu, Sep 11, 2008 at 7:35 AM, landon kelsey <landonmkelsey@xxxxxxxxx>
wrote:
ditto! I suppose changing too many things at once!
Never change horses in mid stream
--- On Wed, 9/10/08, Tom Horsley <tom.horsley@xxxxxxx> wrote:
From: Tom Horsley <tom.horsley@xxxxxxx>
Subject: no new kernels?
To: "Fedora List" <fedora-list@xxxxxxxxxx>
Date: Wednesday, September 10, 2008, 9:03 PM
Just asking :-). I was kinda surprised that no new
kernel showed up in any of the F8 or F9 updates
(for me anyway).
I'm rather wait for 2.6.27 since it's just around the corner (i'm
waiting for ath9k) :)
Steve
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Message: 3
Date: Thu, 11 Sep 2008 10:46:55 +0000 (UTC)
From: Kevin Kofler <kevin.kofler@xxxxxxxxx>
Subject: Re: Regarding Fedora core 9
To: fedora-list@xxxxxxxxxx
Message-ID: <loom.20080911T104625-300@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
winiston <winiston <at> futuraautomation.com> writes:
Currently i am facing the problem in Fedora core 9
Fedora core 9 does not exist. You mean Fedora 9.
Kevin Kofler
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Message: 4
Date: Thu, 11 Sep 2008 10:57:59 +0000 (UTC)
From: Kevin Kofler <kevin.kofler@xxxxxxxxx>
Subject: Re: Yum Error
To: fedora-list@xxxxxxxxxx
Message-ID: <loom.20080911T105644-593@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
Jim <mickeyboa <at> sbcglobal.net> writes:
<Type 'exceptions KeyError' > yum.YumRepo. YumRepository object at
0xd69cpc><traceback object at 0xb87366c>
This error has nothing to do with signing keys.
That said, Rawhide packages are NOT signed. That's because they're NOT
intended
for the average user to install and in particular, MUST NOT be installed
on a
Fedora 9 system.
Kevin Kofler
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Message: 5
Date: Thu, 11 Sep 2008 11:00:08 +0000 (UTC)
From: Kevin Kofler <kevin.kofler@xxxxxxxxx>
Subject: Re: Yum Error
To: fedora-list@xxxxxxxxxx
Message-ID: <loom.20080911T105813-791@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
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Jim <mickeyboa <at> sbcglobal.net> writes:
I know that.
But there is no reason why KDE-4.1.1 won't run in FC9.
There's a reason: it has been built for Rawhide and thus wants Rawhide
libraries. This in turn forces other applications to be upgraded to
versions
also built against Rawhide libraries, which means you're upgrading a huge
number of packages to Rawhide versions and effectively no longer running
F9,
but a broken mix of F9 and Rawhide.
KDE 4.1.1 packages actually targeted for F9 are about to be pushed to
updates-testing (and the stable updates about a week later).
Kevin Kofler
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Message: 6
Date: Thu, 11 Sep 2008 11:05:58 +0000 (UTC)
From: Kevin Kofler <kevin.kofler@xxxxxxxxx>
Subject: Re: Yum Error
To: fedora-list@xxxxxxxxxx
Message-ID: <loom.20080911T110033-187@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
Jim <mickeyboa <at> sbcglobal.net> writes:
I know this may shock you Patrick but I now have kde-4.1.1-fc10 running
in FC9. No error messages.
<SARCASM>Congratulations!</SARCASM> You are now running an unsupported
mix
of
F9 and Rawhide packages. You are going to encounter many bugs due to the
fact
that the mix is completely untested. You are also going to end up with
some
packages which got updated from Rawhide getting no security updates
because
Rawhide has a newer version and you're not pulling the security updates
from
Rawhide (because chances are you didn't even keep track of WHICH packages
you
installed from Rawhide, it's definitely not just KDE, due to the network
of
dependencies and reverse-dependencies). And there is NO reliable way to
get
back to stock F9 without reinstalling.
So you're left with only 2 options:
A. upgrade to Rawhide completely, track Rawhide and eventually end up
with
F10,
assuming you manage to jump off Rawhide at the right time and won't drag
in F11
Rawhide stuff again.
B. completely reformat and reinstall F9 from scratch and NEVER EVER AGAIN
touch
the Rawhide repository.
We're building KDE updates for F9 for a reason!
Kevin Kofler
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Message: 7
Date: Thu, 11 Sep 2008 11:23:25 +0000 (UTC)
From: Kevin Kofler <kevin.kofler@xxxxxxxxx>
Subject: Re: KDE 4.1: Unacceptable ! Was: whew ! That is more like
it ! Folderview and panel questions...
To: fedora-list@xxxxxxxxxx
Message-ID: <loom.20080911T112248-110@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
Patrick O'Callaghan <pocallaghan <at> gmail.com> writes:
Craig was mistaken. Right-click on empty space to a get a menu which
includes adding widgets. To add an app, Right-click on it in Kicker (or
Dolphin).
You mean Kickoff (i.e. the menu). There's no Kicker in KDE 4.
Kevin Kofler
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Message: 8
Date: Thu, 11 Sep 2008 20:59:22 +0930
From: Tim <ignored_mailbox@xxxxxxxxxxxx>
Subject: Re: Reasons behind defaulting atd and sendmail
To: gayleard@xxxxxxxxxx, "Community assistance, encouragement, and
advice for using Fedora." <fedora-list@xxxxxxxxxx>
Message-ID: <1221132562.2926.1.camel@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Content-Type: text/plain
On Wed, 2008-09-10 at 14:59 +0200, Timothy Murphy wrote:
Also I assume if They start a service by default
They must have some reason to do that.
There's quite a few "running by default" services that don't seem
sensible defaults. e.g. There's an ISDN service, and that's such an
unusual type of comms that I'd expect anyone using it would know how to
turn on the service for themselves.
--
[tim@localhost ~]$ uname -r
2.6.25.14-108.fc9.i686
Don't send private replies to my address, the mailbox is ignored. I
read messages from the public lists.
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Message: 9
Date: Thu, 11 Sep 2008 11:29:42 +0000 (UTC)
From: Kevin Kofler <kevin.kofler@xxxxxxxxx>
Subject: Re: KDE 4.1 Desktop, folder view, panel and widget tips and
tricks thread.
To: fedora-list@xxxxxxxxxx
Message-ID: <loom.20080911T112822-602@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
landon kelsey <landonmkelsey <at> yahoo.com> writes:
ridiculous! does anybody put directions on a toilet?
Many people do...
http://images.google.com/images?q=toilet+instructions
Kevin Kofler
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Message: 10
Date: Thu, 11 Sep 2008 11:26:31 +0000 (UTC)
From: Kevin Kofler <kevin.kofler@xxxxxxxxx>
Subject: Re: KDE 4.1 Desktop, folder view, panel and widget tips and
tricks thread.
To: fedora-list@xxxxxxxxxx
Message-ID: <loom.20080911T112616-951@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
linuxguy <linuxguy123 <at> gmail.com> writes:
Question: Is there a way so that when I click on a folder in a folder
view that it opens a new folder rather than with dolphin ?
No.
Kevin Kofler
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Message: 11
Date: Thu, 11 Sep 2008 11:17:49 +0000 (UTC)
From: Kevin Kofler <kevin.kofler@xxxxxxxxx>
Subject: Re: KDE4.1- Plasma crashing
To: fedora-list@xxxxxxxxxx
Message-ID: <loom.20080911T111644-157@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
linuxguy <linuxguy123 <at> gmail.com> writes:
On booting F9 with the recent KDE4.1 update, I get:
A Fatal Error Occurred
The application Plasma Workspace (plasma) crashed and caused the signal
11 (SIGSEGV).
This is: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=461848
This was reported to us only after 4.1.0 went stable.
Kevin Kofler
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Message: 12
Date: Thu, 11 Sep 2008 08:08:05 -0400
From: "Dr. Michael J. Chudobiak" <mjc@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Subject: Re: blue screen of death after logout
To: "Community assistance, encouragement, and advice for using
Fedora." <fedora-list@xxxxxxxxxx>
Message-ID: <48C90A25.80200@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
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If your Multisync is like some of mine it has dual input capability.
Sometimes when changing modes (such as after logout) the monitor gets
Why does the monitor change modes after logout, anyway? gdm isn't
working at a different resolution than the desktop...
- Mike
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Message: 13
Date: Thu, 11 Sep 2008 08:43:23 -0400
From: Daniel J Walsh <dwalsh@xxxxxxxxxx>
Subject: Re: SELinux kerneloops and dhclient issues
To: "Community assistance, encouragement, and advice for using
Fedora." <fedora-list@xxxxxxxxxx>
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Stephen Croll wrote:
Daniel J Walsh wrote:
So it looks like you already have a leaked file descriptor in the shell
that you are running these commands from
Does ls -lZ /proc/self/fd show anything stange?
Yes it does, fd 25:
[root@gerbil ~]# ls -lZ /proc/self/fd
lrwx------ root root
unconfined_u:unconfined_r:unconfined_t:s0-s0:c0.c1023 0 -> /dev/pts/0
lrwx------ root root
unconfined_u:unconfined_r:unconfined_t:s0-s0:c0.c1023 1 -> /dev/pts/0
lrwx------ root root
unconfined_u:unconfined_r:unconfined_t:s0-s0:c0.c1023 2 -> /dev/pts/0
lrwx------ root root
unconfined_u:unconfined_r:unconfined_t:s0-s0:c0.c1023 25 ->
socket:[18571]
lr-x------ root root
unconfined_u:unconfined_r:unconfined_t:s0-s0:c0.c1023 3 -> /proc/3446/fd
It would appear fd 3 is what ls is using to read the entries in
/proc/self/fd (also verified with strace):
[root@gerbil ~]# ls -lZ /proc/self/fd &
lrwx------ root root
unconfined_u:unconfined_r:unconfined_t:s0-s0:c0.c1023 0 -> /dev/pts/0
lrwx------ root root
unconfined_u:unconfined_r:unconfined_t:s0-s0:c0.c1023 1 -> /dev/pts/0
lrwx------ root root
unconfined_u:unconfined_r:unconfined_t:s0-s0:c0.c1023 2 -> /dev/pts/0
lrwx------ root root
unconfined_u:unconfined_r:unconfined_t:s0-s0:c0.c1023 25 ->
socket:[18571]
lr-x------ root root
unconfined_u:unconfined_r:unconfined_t:s0-s0:c0.c1023 3 -> /proc/3463/fd
[1] 3463
[1]+ Done ls --color=auto -lZ /proc/self/fd
I've been trying to figure out the mysteries of NetworkManager and
mixing wired and wireless connections. I just noticed that if I don't
have NetworkManager configured at boot, I don't get the AVC denial nor
do I see the socket on fd 25.
Additionally, I noticed that even if NetworkManager is configured at
boot, I don't see the AVC denial/fd 25 issue when running in a virtual
terminal. Upon further investigation, this issue only seems to occur
when running KDE+konsole, but not KDE+gnome-terminal, nor
GNOME+konsole, nor GNOME+gnome-terminal.
So KDE+Konsole seems to be leaking a file descriptor.
Also, I don't see fd 25 when connecting remotely (over SSH) and
running the above ls command.
--
Steve Croll
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Message: 14
Date: Thu, 11 Sep 2008 08:18:44 -0430
From: "Patrick O'Callaghan" <pocallaghan@xxxxxxxxx>
Subject: Re: blue screen of death after logout
To: fedora-list@xxxxxxxxxx
Message-ID: <1221137324.13947.5.camel@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Content-Type: text/plain
On Thu, 2008-09-11 at 08:08 -0400, Dr. Michael J. Chudobiak wrote:
> If your Multisync is like some of mine it has dual input capability.
> Sometimes when changing modes (such as after logout) the monitor gets
Why does the monitor change modes after logout, anyway? gdm isn't
working at a different resolution than the desktop...
Could be because the X server is restarted.
poc
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Message: 15
Date: Thu, 11 Sep 2008 08:26:10 -0430
From: "Patrick O'Callaghan" <pocallaghan@xxxxxxxxx>
Subject: Re: KDE 4.1: Unacceptable ! Was: whew ! That is more like
it ! Folderview and panel questions...
To: fedora-list@xxxxxxxxxx
Message-ID: <1221137770.13947.8.camel@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Content-Type: text/plain
On Thu, 2008-09-11 at 11:23 +0000, Kevin Kofler wrote:
Patrick O'Callaghan <pocallaghan <at> gmail.com> writes:
> Craig was mistaken. Right-click on empty space to a get a menu which
> includes adding widgets. To add an app, Right-click on it in Kicker
> (or
> Dolphin).
You mean Kickoff (i.e. the menu). There's no Kicker in KDE 4.
Yes. Ironically I could never remember the name Kicker since it means
nothing whereas Kickoff does kind of mean something :-)
poc
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Message: 16
Date: Thu, 11 Sep 2008 05:56:50 -0700 (PDT)
From: landon kelsey <landonmkelsey@xxxxxxxxx>
Subject: Re: yum update yum;yum update yum-utils; WORKS
To: "Community assistance, encouragement, and advice for using
Fedora." <fedora-list@xxxxxxxxxx>
Message-ID: <422344.20829.qm@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1"
I get all ALL kinds of advice on these forums!
I've gotten this:
yum clean all
yum clean metadata
yum clean dbcache
from several different sources.
I am spread way too thin already to become an expert on yum, XORG,
X11, SELinux, the kernel, device drivers, etc.
and many other technologies I have NO knowledge of!
I will use yum as an update mechanism and trust its creators
as I do with XP Prof.
--- On Thu, 9/11/08, Michael Schwendt <mschwendt@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
From: Michael Schwendt <mschwendt@xxxxxxxxx>
Subject: Re: yum update yum;yum update yum-utils; WORKS
To: fedora-list@xxxxxxxxxx
Date: Thursday, September 11, 2008, 4:11 AM
On Wed, 10 Sep 2008 18:32:16 -0700 (PDT), landon kelsey wrote:
my yum update now show all done
I was told one must do these occasionally :
yum clean all
yum clean metadata
yum clean dbcache
Who has said that? It's nonsense, because "all" implies
"metadata dbcache packages headers". No need to run three
different commands if you want to purge everything. These
options are explained in the manual, btw.
yum update
or get nothing when there IS something to get!
"yum clean metadata" is enough to make Yum re-download the repository
metadata (instead of reusing cached data for 30 minutes). When refetching
metadata it is possible that you are assigned to a different mirror
that is more up-to-date than your previous one. There is NO guarantee
for that.
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Date: Thu, 11 Sep 2008 21:49:00 -0700 (PDT)
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Date: Fri, 12 Sep 2008 10:23:09 +0530
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Today's Topics:
1. Re: KDE-4.1: increasing panel height (Florian Sievert)
2. Re: Should I disable the old updates repo? (Patrick O'Callaghan)
3. Problems after updates (was: Fedora 8 and 9 updates
re-enabled) (John Thompson)
4. Re: Calendar choice: looking for advice (Dave Cross)
5. Re: Should I disable the old updates repo? (Brian Millett)
6. Re: Calendar choice: looking for advice (Mauriat)
7. Fedora 10 (Rawhide) missing pand - UPDATED
(Andrew Kenton Mitchell)
8. Re: Backup Server RAID Suggestions - Resend (Robin Laing)
9. XFCE F9 ssh gui? (Frank Murphy)
10. Re: Livna Dependency problem xine-lib-extras-nonfree (Rex Dieter)
11. Re: XFCE F9 ssh gui? (Mark Haney)
12. Re: Should I disable the old updates repo? (Rex Dieter)
13. Re: XFCE F9 ssh gui? (Frank Murphy)
14. Re: KDE-4.1: increasing panel height (Timothy Murphy)
15. Re: microphone not recording (JoaoCid)
16. Re: XFCE F9 ssh gui? (John Thompson)
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Message: 1
Date: Thu, 11 Sep 2008 18:02:13 +0200
From: Florian Sievert <floriansievert@xxxxxxxxxx>
Subject: Re: KDE-4.1: increasing panel height
To: gayleard@xxxxxxxxxx, "Community assistance, encouragement, and
advice for using Fedora." <fedora-list@xxxxxxxxxx>
Message-ID: <48C94105.50205@xxxxxxxxxx>
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Hi Timothy,
I can't find the setting to choose between Small, Normal and Large
panel size, that used to be in KDE-4.
Has it disappeared, or have I just missed it?
My panel is rather small in height, which was the default before.
The way of doing it has changed since 4.0.x. It is solved much better in
4.2 trunk, however the feature does exist, even if it is quite well
hidden. First get sure that you unlocked widgets. Either click on the
cashew of the panel or select "panel settings" from the context menu. A
new bar appears next to the panel. If you select the border of this
panel, you can select the size that the panel should have. If you click
on the bar, you can drag it into another screen edge. Hope this helps.
Best regards,
Florian
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Message: 2
Date: Thu, 11 Sep 2008 11:14:32 -0430
From: "Patrick O'Callaghan" <pocallaghan@xxxxxxxxx>
Subject: Re: Should I disable the old updates repo?
To: fedora-list@xxxxxxxxxx
Message-ID: <1221147872.23460.12.camel@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
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On Thu, 2008-09-11 at 20:47 +0530, Rahul Sundaram wrote:
Patrick O'Callaghan wrote:
> I updated using "yum update" and some repo files were left untouched
> while .rpmnew versions appeared in /etc/yum.repo.d. I moved them into
> place by hand (having backed up the old ones of course). Seemed to
> work.
If you have edited the files by hand, rpm updates won't overwrite the
configuration files usually and instead create .rpmnew files which gives
the user a chance to manually review and adopt the changes.
I realize that, I wasn't complaining :-)
poc
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Message: 3
Date: Thu, 11 Sep 2008 10:45:14 -0500
From: John Thompson <johndthompson@xxxxxxxxx>
Subject: Problems after updates (was: Fedora 8 and 9 updates
re-enabled)
To: "Community assistance, encouragement, and advice for using
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I pulled down and installed about 90 updates, but since then none of the
objects in my ~/Desktop will launch programs -- instead they open as
text files in the editor.
I had this happen once before and managed to fix it, but for the life of
me I can't remember how?
Any ideas?
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Message: 4
Date: Thu, 11 Sep 2008 17:16:40 +0100
From: "Dave Cross" <davorg@xxxxxxxxx>
Subject: Re: Calendar choice: looking for advice
To: "Community assistance, encouragement, and advice for using
Fedora." <fedora-list@xxxxxxxxxx>
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2008/9/11 Brian Millett <bmillett@xxxxxxxxx>:
Timothy Murphy escribío:
I've been looking at two "calendar" programs,
for keeping a record of appointments, etc.
These are Google Calendar, which seems to me
to be well-designed, and the default choice
which any rival must improve upon in some way.
The rival I have been looking at is the setup described in
"Building a Simple Calendar Server with Fedora and WebDAV"
at <http://fedoranews.org/mediawiki/index.php/
Building_a_Simple_Calendar_Server_with_Fedora_and_WebDAV>.
I also looked briefly at KOrganizer".
But I was wondering if anyone has looked into this
more carefully, and if so what conclusion they came to?
Any suggestions gratefully received.
What do you use for email? Sounds like you use KDE, but...
I use Thunderbird and the lightning plugin. The integration is much
better than before
and is quite good. The appointments, or invites sent by my mac friends
can easily be
subscribed to. It works for me. I use the latest plugin found below
and
it is stable for me.
http://ftp.mozilla.org/pub/mozilla.org/calendar/lightning/nightly/latest-mozilla1.8/linux-xpi/lightning.xpi
And if you're using Thunderbird with Lightning then I also highly
recommend the Provider add-on which enables two-way synchronisation
with Google Calendar.
https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/thunderbird/addon/4631
Dave...
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Message: 5
Date: Thu, 11 Sep 2008 11:27:11 -0500
From: Brian Millett <bmillett@xxxxxxxxx>
Subject: Re: Should I disable the old updates repo?
To: "Community assistance, encouragement, and advice for using
Fedora." <fedora-list@xxxxxxxxxx>
Message-ID: <48C946DF.9010704@xxxxxxxxx>
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Mikkel L. Ellertson escribÃo:
Patrick O'Callaghan wrote:
On Thu, 2008-09-11 at 09:42 -0500, Mikkel L. Ellertson wrote:
On my system, the update replaced the repo file. Look at the date of
the files in /etc/yum.repos.d
I updated using "yum update" and some repo files were left untouched
while .rpmnew versions appeared in /etc/yum.repo.d. I moved them into
place by hand (having backed up the old ones of course). Seemed to
work.
poc
Did you edit your (old) repo files? You are only supposed to get
.rpmnew for config files you have changed... (Or .rpmsave if hte old
config file does not work with the new version...)
Mikkel
Not those. I had the fedora.repo. What I got instead was two new ones
fedora-updates-newkey.repo
fedora-updates-testing-newkey.repo
I just deleted the older fedora-updates.repo &
fedora-updates-testing.repo
Thanks for all help.
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Message: 6
Date: Thu, 11 Sep 2008 12:28:24 -0400
From: Mauriat <mirandam@xxxxxxxxx>
Subject: Re: Calendar choice: looking for advice
To: "Community assistance, encouragement, and advice for using
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On Thu, Sep 11, 2008 at 9:29 AM, Timothy Murphy <gayleard@xxxxxxxxxx>
wrote:
I've been looking at two "calendar" programs,
for keeping a record of appointments, etc.
These are Google Calendar, which seems to me
to be well-designed, and the default choice
which any rival must improve upon in some way.
The rival I have been looking at is the setup described in
"Building a Simple Calendar Server with Fedora and WebDAV"
at <http://fedoranews.org/mediawiki/index.php/
Building_a_Simple_Calendar_Server_with_Fedora_and_WebDAV>.
I also looked briefly at KOrganizer".
But I was wondering if anyone has looked into this
more carefully, and if so what conclusion they came to?
Any suggestions gratefully received.
I don't mean to hijack this thread, but it would also be great if
anyone has had positive experience with a calendar solution that is
known to just work with a PDA (PDA recommendations accepted as well).
-Mauriat
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Message: 7
Date: Thu, 11 Sep 2008 12:33:10 -0400
From: Andrew Kenton Mitchell <andrew.mitchell@xxxxxxxxxxx>
Subject: Fedora 10 (Rawhide) missing pand - UPDATED
To: fedora-laptop-list@xxxxxxxxxx, fedora-list@xxxxxxxxxx,
fedora-test-list@xxxxxxxxxx
Message-ID: <48C94846.2010906@xxxxxxxxxxx>
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I sent a message asking for advice/help yesterday. Sorry if I'm
burdening anybody's in box, however, I have more info and I wanted to
share.
The rawhide bluez-utils package seems to be missing /usr/bin/pand.
I tried to add the --enable-pand witch and rebuild the RPM from sources
however, bluez-utils-3.36-2.fc10.src.rpm doesn't seem to want to extract
on my system.
I dug around to see if pand was provided by a differing package:
# yum whatprovides */pand
Loaded plugins: refresh-packagekit
bluez-utils-3.36-2.fc10.i386 : Bluetooth utilities
Matched from:
Filename : /etc/rc.d/init.d/pand
Filename : /etc/sysconfig/pand
bluez-utils-3.36-2.fc10.i386 : Bluetooth utilities
Matched from:
Filename : /etc/rc.d/init.d/pand
Filename : /etc/sysconfig/pand
Then I decided to try a bluez-utils reinstall:
]# yum install bluez-utils
Loaded plugins: refresh-packagekit
Setting up Install Process
Parsing package install arguments
Resolving Dependencies
--> Running transaction check
---> Package bluez-utils.i386 0:3.36-2.fc10 set to be updated
--> Finished Dependency Resolution
Dependencies Resolved
================================================================================
Package Arch Version Repository
Size
================================================================================
Installing:
bluez-utils i386 3.36-2.fc10 rawhide
483 k
Transaction Summary
================================================================================
Install 1 Package(s)
Update 0 Package(s)
Remove 0 Package(s)
Total download size: 483 k
Is this ok [y/N]: y
Downloading Packages:
bluez-utils-3.36-2.fc10.i386.rpm
| 483 kB 00:03
Running rpm_check_debug
Running Transaction Test
Finished Transaction Test
Transaction Test Succeeded
Running Transaction
Installing : bluez-utils
[1/1]
service bluetooth does not support chkconfig
Installed: bluez-utils.i386 0:3.36-2.fc10
Complete!
The init script error surprised me. Does anybody know if this is a just
a bug. Is pand being depreciated? If so, what is the replacement?
Any help would be greatly appreciated.
Can anybody suggest a fix or alternative?
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Message: 8
Date: Thu, 11 Sep 2008 11:44:08 -0600
From: Robin Laing <Robin.Laing@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Subject: Re: Backup Server RAID Suggestions - Resend
To: "Community assistance, encouragement, and advice for using
Fedora." <fedora-list@xxxxxxxxxx>
Message-ID: <48C958E8.7060904@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
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Mike McMullen wrote:
Thank you Gilboa and James!
Here's a little more information.
Someone gave me the de-branded HP Athlon 64 X2 PC. So I have a free PC
I'd like to turn into a NAS server. This doesn't have to be pretty just
functional and semi-cheap.
Since there isn't room in the PC case for the drives, let alone cooling
and power, I figured some external case/RAID storage box might do the
trick.
This thing doesn't need to be the fastest on the planet just reliable
and as inexpensive as possible. I need the money for lenses for the
cameras. ;o)
I've been looking at enclosures etc at www.pc-pitstop.com that use a
port multiplier.
These seem reasonable. Anyone know anything about port multipliers? Am I
missing something big here?
I'm definitely not an expert on raid storage.
Thanks!
Mike
On Mon, 2008-09-08 at 06:35 -0700, Mike McMullen wrote:
Hi All,
I am trying to build a NAS server based on Fedora 9.
I will be using a de-branded HP Athlon 64 X2 Dual-Core with 2GB RAM
and
two 250GB drives mirrored for the OS stuff and a few apps.
Instead of purchasing an external case, I would look at the suggestion
of getting a new computer with enough SATA ports to work with you drive
requirements. It could be cheaper to do this and provide a server that
can do other things like transcoding videos or running ImageMagick
scripts on directories of photos.
I just purchased a large Thermaltake case that can hold all the drives
my ASUS motherboard has SATA and IDE ports for.
I am looking at this as well but looking at the new Seagate 1.5TB drives.
From a previous thread, you may want to order your drives at different
times to ensure that all your drives don't come from the same batch.
I was looking at using RAID 1 but the lost drive space over RAID 1 and
RAID 5 is drastic enough.
I have had drive issues under RAID 1 with software RAID and recovery was
very easy. I don't see any reason for hardware RAID for a home small
business system. You can use that money for a decent camera lens.
--
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Message: 9
Date: Thu, 11 Sep 2008 19:06:18 +0100
From: Frank Murphy <frankly3d@xxxxxxxxx>
Subject: XFCE F9 ssh gui?
To: fedora-list <fedora-list@xxxxxxxxxx>
Message-ID: <1221156378.2373.12.camel@frank-01>
Content-Type: text/plain
I have added a rw\usb-stick as a ssh-client, pub-key added to server
authorised_keys etc..
What can I install in xfce to access the server gui based.
Frank
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Message: 10
Date: Thu, 11 Sep 2008 13:09:19 -0500
From: Rex Dieter <rdieter@xxxxxxxxxxxx>
Subject: Re: Livna Dependency problem xine-lib-extras-nonfree
To: fedora-list@xxxxxxxxxx
Message-ID: <gabmsf$mcd$1@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
Rahul Sundaram wrote:
David R. Wilson wrote:
Hello fellows,
Dependency problem I ran into this morning from 2 machines:
xine-lib-extras-nonfree-1.1.15-1.lvn9.i386 from livna has depsolving
problems
--> Missing Dependency: xine-lib(plugin-abi) = 1.24 is needed by
package xine-lib-extras-nonfree-1.1.15-1.lvn9.i386 (livna)
Error: Missing Dependency: xine-lib(plugin-abi) = 1.24 is needed by
package xine-lib-extras-nonfree-1.1.15-1.lvn9.i386 (livna)
Could someone take a look?
Known issue. Updates have been pushed and not just synced with all the
mirrors yet. Might try
Afaict, it's one mirror in particular out of sync,
livna.cat.pdx.edu
most/all others are fine.
-- Rex
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Message: 11
Date: Thu, 11 Sep 2008 14:12:45 -0400
From: "Mark Haney" <mhaney@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Subject: Re: XFCE F9 ssh gui?
To: <frankly3d@xxxxxxxxx>, "Community assistance, encouragement, and
advice for using Fedora." <fedora-list@xxxxxxxxxx>
Message-ID: <48C95F9D.8090206@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
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Frank Murphy wrote:
I have added a rw\usb-stick as a ssh-client, pub-key added to server
authorised_keys etc..
What can I install in xfce to access the server gui based.
Frank
You lost me, what do you mean? Do you need to get a GUI on the server
you SSH into? If so, you should just be able to run a remote X session.
From the CLI once you've logged in, try running xconsole then you can
start up any GUI application you want. (At least that's how I do it.)
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Message: 12
Date: Thu, 11 Sep 2008 13:10:47 -0500
From: Rex Dieter <rdieter@xxxxxxxxxxxx>
Subject: Re: Should I disable the old updates repo?
To: fedora-list@xxxxxxxxxx
Message-ID: <gabmv8$mcd$2@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
Brian Millett wrote:
The old fedora-updates.repo ??
No (you can, but it's not necessary).
-- Rex
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Message: 13
Date: Thu, 11 Sep 2008 19:17:43 +0100
From: Frank Murphy <frankly3d@xxxxxxxxx>
Subject: Re: XFCE F9 ssh gui?
To: Mark Haney <mhaney@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Cc: "Community assistance, encouragement, and advice for using
Fedora." <fedora-list@xxxxxxxxxx>
Message-ID: <1221157063.2373.16.camel@frank-01>
Content-Type: text/plain
On Thu, 2008-09-11 at 14:12 -0400, Mark Haney wrote:
>
You lost me, what do you mean? Do you need to get a GUI on the server
GUI on the client, in gnome you can "connect to server" your in, and
bookmark it.
I don't want to type, just "connect to server", but thunar doesn't seem
to have a similar function.
you SSH into? If so, you should just be able to run a remote X session.
From the CLI once you've logged in, try running xconsole then you can
start up any GUI application you want. (At least that's how I do it.)
I don't want to start a gui on the server.
Frank
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Message: 14
Date: Thu, 11 Sep 2008 19:27:49 +0200
From: Timothy Murphy <gayleard@xxxxxxxxxx>
Subject: Re: KDE-4.1: increasing panel height
To: fedora-list@xxxxxxxxxx
Message-ID: <gabo36$r73$1@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
Florian Sievert wrote:
I can't find the setting to choose between Small, Normal and Large
panel size, that used to be in KDE-4.
Has it disappeared, or have I just missed it?
My panel is rather small in height, which was the default before.
The way of doing it has changed since 4.0.x. It is solved much better in
4.2 trunk, however the feature does exist, even if it is quite well
hidden. First get sure that you unlocked widgets. Either click on the
cashew of the panel or select "panel settings" from the context menu. A
new bar appears next to the panel. If you select the border of this
panel, you can select the size that the panel should have. If you click
on the bar, you can drag it into another screen edge. Hope this helps.
Unfortunately, following your advice (probably wrongly)
has had a disastrous effect.
My panel has disappeared completely,
including the F start icon.
The only way I can run any application (like knode)
is to right-click on the empty screen and choose "Give command".
How can I get my panel back?
Clicking on "Add panel" has no noticeable effect.
I tried mv-ing .kde to .kde.bak and re-starting X.
This worked, but would mean I have to re-set all my settings,
which would be too boring.
It is easier to do without the panel.
If I knew which file in .kde/share/configs/ actually deals with the panel
I could probably fix it.
Sorry, but my experience with KDE-4.1 has been very bad, to date.
My impression is that the KDE team have become much too clever,
and have forgotten that simplicity is often the best way.
In any case, does anyone know where I can find my panel, please?
--
Timothy Murphy
e-mail: gayleard /at/ eircom.net
tel: +353-86-2336090, +353-1-2842366
s-mail: School of Mathematics, Trinity College, Dublin 2, Ireland
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Message: 15
Date: Thu, 11 Sep 2008 20:31:03 +0200
From: JoaoCid <no-reply-gw@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Subject: Re: microphone not recording
To: fedora-list@xxxxxxxxxx
Message-ID: <050b4f36d233a86a4a7745c6e356dfbe@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8"
Hello Antonio,
Thanks for the feedback, first of all...
The answer is yes, I've done that in the alsamixer (gui/gnome version),
and what I find strange is that I am not able to see the respective
information also in the alsamixer console-version!
Does this help to go a bit further?
Again, thanks
:)
Joao
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Message: 16
Date: Thu, 11 Sep 2008 13:42:45 -0500
From: John Thompson <johndthompson@xxxxxxxxx>
Subject: Re: XFCE F9 ssh gui?
To: frankly3d@xxxxxxxxx, "Community assistance, encouragement, and
advice for using Fedora." <fedora-list@xxxxxxxxxx>
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Frank Murphy wrote:
| I have added a rw\usb-stick as a ssh-client, pub-key added to server
| authorised_keys etc..
|
| What can I install in xfce to access the server gui based
PuTTY for linux:
http://linux.softpedia.com/get/System/Networking/PuTTY-347.shtml
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