Re: Secrecy and user trust

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Jeff Spaleta wrote:

If you want to be security paranoid concerning the validity of the new
key when it becomes available.. go right ahead.. be paranoid about it.
 But if you need 3rd parties to sign off on the key before you use it,
then you should already have been talking to 3rd parties about doing
it for the last Fedora key. Talk to the 3rd parties.. get them to
agree to sign the new key and put the detached signatures somewhere
public.

This is a (hopefully) one-time problem, and therefore it probably doesn't need a perfect, automated, runs-by-itelf solution. And my assumption has been that some people at other repositories do personally know and interact with official people in the Fedora project, and that there is an out-of-band way to pass information to the people at some other repository. Given the nature of the problem, that could mean carrying a CD a hundred miles to meet with someone who is personally known to you from a presentation, etc, etc. It need not be pretty, let's assume that this is a one-time problem.

The the other repository creates an RPM, containing not the key, but the RPM created by Fedora, signed appropriately, which in turn contains the new key, and distributes an RPM which installs an RPM, which rpm (the program) now knows how to handle. So instead of signing a key, they create and sign an RPM which itself contains an RPM, which can be manually installed by the cautious.

Does that satisfy the technical issues you raised? It's what I had in mind initially, when I proposed a secure means of distributing the information. I know it's ugly, but it's a one night stand.

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